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Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by bretbernhoft »

savetz wrote: post #2

Internet Archive has begun gathering content for the Digital Library of Amateur Radio and Communications (DLARC), which will be a massive online library of materials and collections related to amateur radio and early digital communications. The DLARC project is looking for contributors with troves of ham radio, amateur radio, and early digital communications related books, magazines, documents, catalogs, manuals, vid…

Outstanding context, thank you!

This is a wonderful partnership to learn about. I hope that Internet Archive is successful here.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by curiousfab »

savetz wrote: post #2

Internet Archive has begun gathering content for the Digital Library of Amateur Radio and Communications (DLARC), which will be a massive online library of materials and collections related to amateur radio and early digital communications. The DLARC project is looking for contributors with troves of ham radio, amateur radio, and early digital communications related books, magazines, documents, catalogs, manuals, vid…

This is a mammoth task but an important one. I wonder if there's a way to collaborate with existing collections of historical Amateur radio data, such as the famous "QSL Collection" from Vienna: https://www.dokufunk.org/index.php?lang=EN

I think they have more material than probably anyone else in the world, but much of it is "offline" (partly digitized but not web accessible).

Another huge collection of historic QSL cards, bios of deceased radio amateurs and other stuff: http://hamgallery.com/

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by Dalewyn »

cormorant wrote: post #29
Gigachad wrote: post #23

The IA has really lost its reputation as an archive by choosing to remove content down for political purposes. They see themselves as publishers rather than an archive.

I attempted to google to guess what you meant. I found: (1) they recently removed KiwiFarms; (2) in 2020, they began labeling certain pages with "fact checks"; (3) they remove content by request of the site owner or by copyright complaint. Of those, (2) seems the most political, but it's not removing content. Was there something else you had in mind?

(1) is egregious if the goal is an archive of the internet.

An archive should have everything of what is being archived, legalese notwithstanding: The good, the bad, the beautiful, the ugly, everything. E v e r y t h i n g . If it doesn't have everything, it's not an archive.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by jimnotgym »

savetz wrote: post #2

Internet Archive has begun gathering content for the Digital Library of Amateur Radio and Communications (DLARC), which will be a massive online library of materials and collections related to amateur radio and early digital communications. The DLARC project is looking for contributors with troves of ham radio, amateur radio, and early digital communications related books, magazines, documents, catalogs, manuals, vid…

> software

Amatuer radio seems full of little software tools to do calculations that are closed source. I hope the authors can be encouraged to publish source, or it will die with them.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by Gigachad »

cormorant wrote: post #29
Gigachad wrote: post #23

The IA has really lost its reputation as an archive by choosing to remove content down for political purposes. They see themselves as publishers rather than an archive.

I attempted to google to guess what you meant. I found: (1) they recently removed KiwiFarms; (2) in 2020, they began labeling certain pages with "fact checks"; (3) they remove content by request of the site owner or by copyright complaint. Of those, (2) seems the most political, but it's not removing content. Was there something else you had in mind?

Removing kiwi farms was a bad decision. The copyright and site owner did not request it and the content was not illegal. So the IA is picking content to delist based on their own feelings rather than simply archiving.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by auveair »

Gigachad wrote: post #35
cormorant wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I attempted to google to guess what you meant. I found: (1) they recently removed KiwiFarms; (2) in 2020, they began labeling certain pages with "fact checks"; (3) they remove content by request of the site owner or by copyright complaint. Of those, (2) seems the most political, but it's not removing content. Was there something else you had in mind?

Removing kiwi farms was a bad decision. The copyright and site owner did not request it and the content was not illegal. So the IA is picking content to delist based on their own feelings rather than simply archiving.

> the content was not illegal

The content was clearly libelous and defamatory, which is pretty illegal. In some countries it would also count as harassement.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by ale42 »

nidnogg wrote: post #5
savetz wrote: post #2

Internet Archive has begun gathering content for the Digital Library of Amateur Radio and Communications (DLARC), which will be a massive online library of materials and collections related to amateur radio and early digital communications. The DLARC project is looking for contributors with troves of ham radio, amateur radio, and early digital communications related books, magazines, documents, catalogs, manuals, vid…

Does it have to be strictly historical radio content? I have a radio app I used to showcase some of my compositions but I'm not sure it'd qualify.

It should be related to amateur radio, so if it is about broadcast radio probably not.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by ryeights »

auveair wrote: post #36
Gigachad wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing kiwi farms was a bad decision. The copyright and site owner did not request it and the content was not illegal. So the IA is picking content to delist based on their own feelings rather than simply archiving.

> the content was not illegal The content was clearly libelous and defamatory, which is pretty illegal. In some countries it would also count as harassement.

Libelous/defamatory content is not illegal in the same vein as pirated movies or CSAM, in that the Internet Archive would be criminally liable for hosting it. I wouldn’t imagine it’s illegal for IA to host a snapshot of a defamatory news article, for example.

Re: Internet Archive Seeks Material for Library of Amateur Radio and Communications

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Post by huffals »

auveair wrote: post #36
Gigachad wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Removing kiwi farms was a bad decision. The copyright and site owner did not request it and the content was not illegal. So the IA is picking content to delist based on their own feelings rather than simply archiving.

> the content was not illegal The content was clearly libelous and defamatory, which is pretty illegal. In some countries it would also count as harassement.

The content was embarrassing and revealing for the people it concerned (hence efforts to remove it through any means necessary), but not libelous or defamatory - it consisted of archived material of their own words.
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