Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters • Hacker News Board

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by mrmuagi » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:03 AM UTC

hericium wrote: post #18

mrslave wrote: post #10

I am always unsure how this applies to someone with an irregular exercise schedule. If, when fasting (intermittent) my exercise is primarily cardio then I will continue fasting. However if it is resistance training, does getting some protein into my system as soon as possible take priority over fasting? Or is this less important than the immediate-protein-shake crowd suggests? Should I try to pull the window forward…

Proteins have 4 calories per gram so if your usual post-workout protein intake would be 20-30g, it'd be 80-120 calories. YMMV but that would move me out of fast. The only calories I ingest during the fast is a little fat for vitamin D bioavailability in the morning. My caloric window is 1-8pm and I exercise in the mornings with just a few essential amino-acids.

Not sure, but isn't 20-30% of the protein lost in digestion?

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by TedDoesntTalk » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:04 AM UTC

nikkwong wrote: post #17

mrslave wrote: post #10

I am always unsure how this applies to someone with an irregular exercise schedule. If, when fasting (intermittent) my exercise is primarily cardio then I will continue fasting. However if it is resistance training, does getting some protein into my system as soon as possible take priority over fasting? Or is this less important than the immediate-protein-shake crowd suggests? Should I try to pull the window forward…

I'll assume that your goal when drinking a protein shake/gaining muscle is to gain muscle. It's generally believed that a state of anabolism is generally viewed as being antagonistic to the body; too much protein/growth is taxing. Yet, having muscle is important for aging, and also acts as a glucose sink thereby improving metabolism. A balance has to be achieved. > Or is this less important than the immediate-protein…

> exercise early and also eat early in the day

This is slightly contrary to what I’ve learned from Rhonda Patrick. Exercise in the morning, sure, but while still fasting from overnight (black coffee or plain tea ok… does not break the fast).

Eat after exercise so that your fast lasts longer. Also, cardio exercise blunts the hunger feeling in many people.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by georgeburdell » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:04 AM UTC

neuroma wrote: post #20

georgeburdell wrote: post #6

Applies to late shift working, which is already well-known as a health risk

What is late shift working? Is it different to night shift work?

The article just calls it “shift work” and define it as working 2 or more hours between 10pm and 5am

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by mrmuagi » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:05 AM UTC

xwdv wrote: post #5

colechristensen wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sauna seems pretty close, it’s just sitting somewhere hot on a regular basis and is quite pleasant. Saw a study recently that showed broad, dose dependent health effects. Personally it really seems to help when I’m overloaded with stress, in a direct immediate way.

It screws up your semen.

What about testosterone?

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by TedDoesntTalk » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:08 AM UTC

colechristensen wrote: post #19

vvpan wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think you can find that study?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33056743

> quite pleasant.

I use sauna 20 minutes per day about 5 times per week (helps to have a small one in the home. Don’t get infrared if you get one).

I would not call it pleasant. If done correctly, your heart rate is elevated (130-135 bpm for me), and you are sweating profusely.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by girvo » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:09 AM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #22

nikkwong wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll assume that your goal when drinking a protein shake/gaining muscle is to gain muscle. It's generally believed that a state of anabolism is generally viewed as being antagonistic to the body; too much protein/growth is taxing. Yet, having muscle is important for aging, and also acts as a glucose sink thereby improving metabolism. A balance has to be achieved. > Or is this less important than the immediate-protein…

> exercise early and also eat early in the day This is slightly contrary to what I’ve learned from Rhonda Patrick. Exercise in the morning, sure, but while still fasting from overnight (black coffee or plain tea ok… does not break the fast). Eat after exercise so that your fast lasts longer. Also, cardio exercise blunts the hunger feeling in many people.

This has been my schedule for my entire adult life, not because I read it, but simply because it felt the "best" for myself. I was never a big breakfast eater anyway, and I found fasted + black coffee exercise the best for myself personally in terms of energy, motivation and so on.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by irrational » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:11 AM UTC

spoonjim wrote: post #15

xwdv wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It screws up your semen.

Most men have only about a 10-year period when they care about their semen quality, you can use the sauna the other 50 years.

Other 50 years? What happened to the other 40 years?

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by thatcat » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:13 AM UTC

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #22

nikkwong wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll assume that your goal when drinking a protein shake/gaining muscle is to gain muscle. It's generally believed that a state of anabolism is generally viewed as being antagonistic to the body; too much protein/growth is taxing. Yet, having muscle is important for aging, and also acts as a glucose sink thereby improving metabolism. A balance has to be achieved. > Or is this less important than the immediate-protein…

> exercise early and also eat early in the day This is slightly contrary to what I’ve learned from Rhonda Patrick. Exercise in the morning, sure, but while still fasting from overnight (black coffee or plain tea ok… does not break the fast). Eat after exercise so that your fast lasts longer. Also, cardio exercise blunts the hunger feeling in many people.

If your goal is muscle gain, you need some glucose available during the workout to maximize the weight you can lift.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by spoonjim » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:14 AM UTC

irrational wrote: post #27

spoonjim wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most men have only about a 10-year period when they care about their semen quality, you can use the sauna the other 50 years.

Other 50 years? What happened to the other 40 years?

I assume ~80 year lifespan and that you start going to the sauna as an adult.

Re: Study: Time-Restricted Eating Improves Cardiovascular Health for Firefighters

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Post by TedDoesntTalk » Wed, Oct 05, 2022, 4:18 AM UTC

girvo wrote: post #26

TedDoesntTalk wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> exercise early and also eat early in the day This is slightly contrary to what I’ve learned from Rhonda Patrick. Exercise in the morning, sure, but while still fasting from overnight (black coffee or plain tea ok… does not break the fast). Eat after exercise so that your fast lasts longer. Also, cardio exercise blunts the hunger feeling in many people.

This has been my schedule for my entire adult life, not because I read it, but simply because it felt the "best" for myself. I was never a big breakfast eater anyway, and I found fasted + black coffee exercise the best for myself personally in terms of energy, motivation and so on.

And I wish I knew this 30 years ago.