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Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by gpm »

rapind wrote: post #112
harryvederci wrote: post #23

I don't know the intention of the author, but I see like a lot of "Look, it's happening! The economy is going down!" posts pop up these days. Which may be true, but it can also be a self-fulfilling profecy if everyone is doing that on all platforms. Which would be a shame. I'm not saying HN and other platforms should censor (/ take action) either. It's just a thought I have on this subject, and I don't know if there…

> I don't know the intention of the author Why does his intent matter unless you think the data is being skewed or misrepresented? Seems like a fairly objective factual post to me (but I didn’t run the numbers myself). I would appreciate if data observations like this always included the script so people could easily (and quickly) verify the results, but that’s just a personal knit pick.

> Why does his intent matter unless you think the data is being skewed or misrepresented?

Because the data can be cherry-picked, intentionally or un-intentionally, similar to https://xkcd.com/882/

If you believe a trend exists (or just want to find evidence for it for other reasons) and you keep looking for statistical evidence of it, you're going to find it.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by trenning »

rapind wrote: post #112
harryvederci wrote: post #23

I don't know the intention of the author, but I see like a lot of "Look, it's happening! The economy is going down!" posts pop up these days. Which may be true, but it can also be a self-fulfilling profecy if everyone is doing that on all platforms. Which would be a shame. I'm not saying HN and other platforms should censor (/ take action) either. It's just a thought I have on this subject, and I don't know if there…

> I don't know the intention of the author Why does his intent matter unless you think the data is being skewed or misrepresented? Seems like a fairly objective factual post to me (but I didn’t run the numbers myself). I would appreciate if data observations like this always included the script so people could easily (and quickly) verify the results, but that’s just a personal knit pick.

My biggest takeaway from submitting this, is that most people (by top upvoted comments) had a negative knee jerk reaction to my 'intentions'. I just thought it was observationally interesting.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by WWLink »

fernandotakai wrote: post #260
throwaway292939 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think the leading indicator would be Big Tech layoffs and hiring freezes that started months ago. If I were to change my course of action, I'd use that since it happened way earlier.

i mean, even with hiring freezes and layoffs i'm still getting emails from recruiters (this month i got one from google amongst other companies).

I feel like the big companies have nothing to lose from saying and doing these things. First it frees them of any guilty conscience to hack and slash at 'extra fat', second it allows them to get away with running skeleton teams. Third, it makes people who get solicited and receive a job offer feel "lucky" that they were given an offer in a "bad market".

There's no reason for them to not act like this. Unless a pile of startups are standing around throwing more money at engineers and loudly attracting google's talent away.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by vadym909 »

fernandotakai wrote: post #260
throwaway292939 wrote: post #187

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think the leading indicator would be Big Tech layoffs and hiring freezes that started months ago. If I were to change my course of action, I'd use that since it happened way earlier.

i mean, even with hiring freezes and layoffs i'm still getting emails from recruiters (this month i got one from google amongst other companies).

Freezes are never absolute or company wide. It just means that it will be harder to get headcount. The recruiters keep filling the funnel at a lower pace.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by conductr »

yewenjie wrote: post #135

One reason is that crypto is down and the flurry of random crypto startups are absent right now. Compare the number of posts in December 2021 for reference, which was peak crypto of recent times.

You're conflating causation and correlation. Crypto just happened to be the it thing when funding went dry. It could have just as easily happened during the dozens of other software funding trends. The cause is more macro than a crypto startup trend.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by seibelj »

seattle_spring wrote: post #68

Presumably enough employers have stopped posting to be statistically significant. I know I did; finding one qualified candidate in a sea of 50 bootcamp grad applicants for an explicitly staff-level position just wasn’t worth the effort. Worse was when I was threatened with an ageism lawsuit because our recruiters didn’t want to move forward with a guy with 10+ <1 year job stints became immediately argumentative in th…

Totally agree - never received a good candidate from here so I stopped trying a while ago. Maybe once and a while I post. Hiring good people is always hard, it’s a full time job for a full time recruiter.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by atraac »

seattle_spring wrote: post #68

Presumably enough employers have stopped posting to be statistically significant. I know I did; finding one qualified candidate in a sea of 50 bootcamp grad applicants for an explicitly staff-level position just wasn’t worth the effort. Worse was when I was threatened with an ageism lawsuit because our recruiters didn’t want to move forward with a guy with 10+ <1 year job stints became immediately argumentative in th…

That sounds like an issue you would have with or without post on HN. How did you solve that and how did it affect your hiring numbers? It feels like HN would at least attract way more technical people than generic job boards.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by Redoubts »

altdataseller wrote: post #248
UncleOxidant wrote: post #235

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it too early to count the total on October 4th?

OP wants to be early to report a trend. Too early and premature IMO, but he wants to be first, I guess.

Oh I don’t know about that. I would say the vast majority of a threads discussion happens in the first 12 hours here. The who’s hiring threads don’t have that much longer of a tail.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by atraac »

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

Wrote in Who wants to be hired recently. Got two emails from actual companies and one from a questionable recruiter with no concretes. One of those companies sent me a Triplebyte timed algo question without any real human contact whatsoever so I just didn't do it. Other one had a take home assignment with a fairly easy Leetcode wrapped in an API kind of task. Did that, never received any feedback besides 'thanks but no', no invite for actual technical interview. Had much better experience with companies I found through LinkedIn to be honest. Feels like people here feel elitist to a point where a decent engineer is nothing, without FAANG experience.
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