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Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by pbz » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:48 PM UTC

slg wrote: post #134

pbz wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's the only way we know of to stop greed/fomo running rampant. Folks need to be put in a time-out to cool off and force them to reprioritize. We like to think of the market as this calculated and rational entity. It's far from that, in fact it's closer to the opposite of that. The other option is to do price control, but that won't fly in capitalism.

There are other levers that can be pulled. Taxes are one example that could be much more targeted at the specific sources of the "greed/fomo running rampant". We instead chose to take it out on everyone.

I'd put taxation in the same bucket as price control because for this to be effective the taxes would need to be on the rich (in effect to drain liquidity) and that's as likely as price control.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by hn_throwaway_99 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:50 PM UTC

minimaxir wrote: post #3

Similar discussion a few months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31675201 This thread by myself contains a BigQuery to reproduce the data + a chart of Who is Hiring posts over time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31675750 Here's a new chart of up-to-date data: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13yGlJzFpVzZ-WNHAOsdo...

Just wanted to say thank you for collating and sharing this data, I thought it was really helpful and interesting!

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by tester756 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:50 PM UTC

Aren't budgets being made around last/first months, so people wait for it?

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by pyb » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

A bit more specialized, but I don't get much inbound interest as a software developer for hardware projects.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by LouisSayers » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:56 PM UTC

anonygler wrote: post #37

I feel like people are trying to wish the economy into a recession / depression, but I really don't see it happening. I do see some belt tightening wrt SaaS expenditures. There's still a massive demand for labor. While the housing market has fallen, the actual cost of buying a house is still rising. Rate increases have well outpaced the list price reductions. So I think all this talk of a recession is just a bunch of…

I get the same feeling - the only thing to me that makes sense is that people with money are afraid that a full scale war might break out as a result of Russia and perhaps China or North Korea etc.

Otherwise when I look around it seems like the restaurants are busy, people are taking holidays (even those who wouldn't usually), and people as a whole seem better off than they've been in a while...

It kind of seems like the view of the economy is being manipulated, because here on the street everything looks hunky dory.

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:58 PM UTC

kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #47

anonygler wrote: post #37

I feel like people are trying to wish the economy into a recession / depression, but I really don't see it happening. I do see some belt tightening wrt SaaS expenditures. There's still a massive demand for labor. While the housing market has fallen, the actual cost of buying a house is still rising. Rate increases have well outpaced the list price reductions. So I think all this talk of a recession is just a bunch of…

It feels like _something_ is happening, but it's not quite the recession that people are fearing. The US is somehow at the lowest unemployment rates we've seen and people are saying it's all going to collapse which just feels off. If the US hits 5% unemployment that simultaneously worse off than where we are but still a solid economic position. My pet theory is that everyone is just tired, so damned tired, and seeps…

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Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by amateurdev » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 6:58 PM UTC

killingtime74 wrote: post #25

Has anyone actually gotten much success in either direction (hirer/candidate) from these posts?

Yes! At my current position from a post made in the Who's Hiring. Been here for over a year

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by atlasunshrugged » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 7:00 PM UTC

User23 wrote: post #119

whatshisface wrote: post #98

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I don't think people should downvote you for disagreement, but I do disagree with your analysis. The US has a system where the Fed lets banks manage the money creation, and they control that by changing the interest rates to change the bank's incentives. In Zimbabwe, the government prints money directly (or at least they did under the Mugabe government, I am not up to date on their current affairs), which means that…

The Fed is a creature of Congress, which is to say that Congress completely controls the Fed. All talk of the Fed's independence has no constitutional basis. The Fed was created by an act of Congress and can be restructured, abolished, or otherwise changed however Congress likes by subsequent acts of Congress. Indeed, in the history of US central banking, Congress has done so before. Therefore, the Fed's continued ex…

Given Congresses inability to get almost anything done other than the absolute "must-do's" like NDAA and yearly appropriations and then 1-2 big ticket admin items, why do you think that Congress has the capacity, much less the will to control or even exert significant interest over the Fed?

Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 7:01 PM UTC

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Re: Lowest “Who is hiring?” Post Count in 30 Months

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Post by warner25 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 7:01 PM UTC

pc86 wrote: post #67

kiernanmcgowan wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like _something_ is happening, but it's not quite the recession that people are fearing. The US is somehow at the lowest unemployment rates we've seen and people are saying it's all going to collapse which just feels off. If the US hits 5% unemployment that simultaneously worse off than where we are but still a solid economic position. My pet theory is that everyone is just tired, so damned tired, and seeps…

Tired of (or from) what? With the major exception of the pandemic/remote work, the world is not markedly different than it was in 2013 or 2003. What makes it seems like 2023 is so different?

I read this kind of sentiment often and I wonder the same thing. I mean, I'm much more tired (physically and emotionally stressed) than I was in 2013 or 2003, but I'm also 10-20 years older with 10-20 years of accumulated baggage and responsibilities. I think some people might forget that fact.