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Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Every time I've tried to give render.com a proper go, I've run into some weird small issue. Ended up settling on fly.io and use that for everything now.

(Render hat on) Interesting feedback--feel like sharing in detail? You can reach me directly at ed@render.com.

Hey! Thanks for that, I'll find out what the most recent issue I ran into was and shoot you an email. In general I like the idea and direction, seems like a much closer Heroku successor.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

This looks really cool, I can't wait to try it out! From what I saw, it looks like it does a lot of stuff behind the scenes relating to domains and SSL.. does it work with the server behind Cloudflare (the dashboard and hosted sites), or is this something I would probably want to be accessing directly?

Personally, I do not use Cloudflare, but Coolify works with it!

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Not “natively”, but as lots of people asking, I will add it soon. Try to fit in this week! :)

Any chance of swift server?

I'm open for anything but I never used Swift server before, so not sure if it could be integrated. I have to take a look.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Thank you for mentioning Coolify (founder here). :)

Was looking for a service just like this only days ago, and posted to Software Recommendations on Stack Exchange after failing to find anything via web search. If this works as advertised, then you've made something amazing. Haven't tried yet, but have linked on my SE post (to which I recieved no other replies so far!). https://softwarerecs.stackexchange.com/a/84179/7653

Wow, thank you!

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, the founder of Coolify here. I'm constantly adding new features to Coolify. Which ones are you missing (except Docker Swarm)?

Dokku has a very easy solution for connecting databases and other services to an app with "Dokku link." Currently with Coolify I have to spin up a database then take the link generated, like postgres://user:pass@host/link and then paste it into my env file for my app. It would be cool for Coolify to automatically inject those environment variables into my app when I link two services and apps together like Dokku does…

I had a similar idea before (linking resources like this), thanks for reminding me.

I will add such DX improvement, for sure!

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Moved backend services for my videogame from Heroku to Render. It's been super-easy, and the service is more responsive and significantly more stable now on Render, despite me paying much less. 1. Almost no work. The app was Node.js + Postgres, it stayed that way and only needed a few environment variable changes plus a database migration. 2. Almost none, I use PaaS because I concentrate on making games, and want to…

Thanks for the info - I have some similar use cases.

How has the Postgres DB worked out for you with Render? I've been weary of using a relational DB in general since it's a single point of failure and really disruptive if your instance goes down (even with a back-up DB to failover too can be problematic if data doesn't get replicated before a crash).

Also are you just using your Node.js app as a back-end server or are you also serving web pages from it?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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I tried many PaaS providers and ended up settling on Render, mostly because of its minimal boilerplate and lack of proprietary tech or vendor lock-in. There is a custom infrastructure-as-code YAML file, but it is optional and pretty nice in its own right, anyway. I get the sense that the Render team cares about DX and doing things the right way for the long term. Moving there from Heroku is simple as the platforms ha…

My main gripe with Render is they don't support adding Cloudflare CDN to cache static assets with far-future settings.

Rails apps have hashed assets that change when the asset content changes, so it's needlessly bad for performance to not cache them.

This is a feature that's been in the "Planned" stage for some years now, one of the most upvoted ones, but unfortunately still not there.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

Hi! While the project does look very interesting, i'm kind of put off by the code. While it is pretty organized and neat, I can see that all of the services offered are hard-coded. Like the 330 lines long if-else chain in apps/api/src/lib/services/common.ts. This way every time you need to set add a new service to coolify there's the need to ship a new version. Why did you choose to go this way rather than a more gen…

> Like the 330 lines long if-else chain in apps/api/src/lib/services/common.ts.

As far as I can see, there is no 330 line long if-else chain in that file. Nothing even close to it. Can you link to what you're talking about more specifically?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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We have been running a Rails monolith in Heroku for over 5 years. Our application has pretty strict uptime requirements and in the last 24 months we've had several major outages that were entirely due to Heroku. We're in the range of 5-10 million requests per day. Heroku's erratic performance over the last year or so combined with what we see as a steady decline in the responsiveness (and sometimes quality) of Heroku…

Why Redis cloud over Google Memorystore?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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For personal stuff or business? I'm extremely familiar with AWS at the corporate level but I refuse to use it for personal stuff. Not only are the pricing schemes suspect, the results can be surprising. A single front page feature on HN, for example, could suddenly cost you $150,000 because you didn't wade through enough labyrinthine configuration pages to set the right budgets.

I use AWS for personal stuff and it's not labyrinthine at all, I found it very simple to set a budget alert. But more important than that is of course to have a CloudFront cache infront of anything that exposes S3 storage.

I hope you don't wake up 7 hours after a budget alert because you're in the wrong timezone. Please stop justifying the huge risks AWS knowingly carries. It would be easy to place a hard cap, but they refuse to do so.
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