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> I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up… This is a naive and pessimistic view. The software industry is much bigger than the VC bubble. See patio11s law for more details.
"patio11s law"?
“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore
"Overall employment of software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers is projected to grow 25 percent from 2021 to 2031, much faster than the average for all occupations." Job Security. As long as you learn whatever new fad frameworks replace React.
(But I sincerely hope it's not a fad as I've designed it to be the antithesis to the rabbit chasing and dogmatic nonsense that's plagued JS the last decade or so).
“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore
"Overall employment of software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers is projected to grow 25 percent from 2021 to 2031, much faster than the average for all occupations." Job Security. As long as you learn whatever new fad frameworks replace React.
For webdev. There are other areas of software than web. It’s hard to tell that’s true reading HN sometimes.
I've been startled to find out that the global population is stabilizing or is actually reducing [0]. To me that means that any shortages that are apparent now (and Software Dev shortage has been trumpeted about for years) will continue into the future. If you look at the demographics of US [1], you see that dip below the age of 30, so there are fewer folks coming online to take the jobs of the people retiring. Of co…
I don't think population growth is a strong indicator of demand or supply for specialized services like SWEs. For example, automation can remove one type of labor and increase the supply for services labor, like the combustion engine w/ agriculture. Also you can have increased demand by the popularization of new software interfaces, like smart phones or AR.
Could be that Copilot achieves sentience tomorrow we hit singularity and all SWEs will be out of job.
Trucking industry has been slowly automating itself, if I was a truck driver I might start looking for something else (if I was young) but at least they can see it coming.
“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore
I think there was a comment on HN once to the effect of "Imagine you had 2 candidates, same work experience, both at a fairly prestigious company, one with a degree, one without, which do you hire? Personally, I think the fact that the non-degree holding one is more likely to be the better hire, just because of how much harder they had to work to get into that position". Not saying that not having a degree is somehow…
I've been startled to find out that the global population is stabilizing or is actually reducing [0]. To me that means that any shortages that are apparent now (and Software Dev shortage has been trumpeted about for years) will continue into the future. If you look at the demographics of US [1], you see that dip below the age of 30, so there are fewer folks coming online to take the jobs of the people retiring. Of co…
But this is a skilled profession. How relevant is it that there are fewer young people in general? Should we expect the number of top basketball players to stagnate as well? I get that there's far more software jobs than Pro sports, but is it relevant that world population is coming down? You'd think perhaps something like the number of CS graduates might matter most.
More people are retiring than joining the workforce AND there's already a shortage, so my thinking is the shortage will continue to grow assuming the demand remains stable or grows.
In China, there are 10 people currently working for every retiree. By 2030 it will drop to 2 people per retiree.
25% growth in the next ten years? Isn't that a slowdown in growth? I seem to remember the Uncle Bob video where # of devs is doubling every 5 years or so. OTOH I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up and management will force efficiencies going forward.
BLS projections about individual jobs and payrates are a joke. They had pharmacist as a growth career at +10% from 2010 to 2020, whole year after year, entry level and hourly payrates went down, easily verifiable by reading online forums. How can that be? Then in 2020, they finally changed it to -3% growth, but due to the pandemic measures and people quitting the field, payrates have actually gone up. They should be…
Also, growth in number of jobs is not necessarily correlated with salary changes. You have to also consider the growth in the number of people entering that field. A PharmD used to be seen as an easy pathway to a guaranteed six figure salary (back when that was a much more rare and significant milestone). It's no wonder it attracted a lot of people into the field, which drove down salaries.
Software will probably see the same situation over the next decade or two. It seems like kids today see programming as a easy way to earn a great living, and many schools & parents are pushing their kids into the space.
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I would say it's a soft requirement in most cases. One must be prepared for an extra uphill battle trying to secure a job without one. As someone who just broke into the industry this month (with no degree), my biggest assets were an existing portfolio of work and leveraging my ten years of professional experience working on complex/critical problems in various fields. I don't think this is strictly related to softwa…
I spent the first ten or so years of my career without a degree. And I can say with certainty that jobs are substantially easier to come by now that I have a CS degree. I'm not sure if this is still the case for people, but I faced a lot of discrimination from management over my lack of degree. Especially managers who "inherited" me. Some of it was petty too, like all the other devs on my team were software "engineer…