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US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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25% growth in the next ten years? Isn't that a slowdown in growth? I seem to remember the Uncle Bob video where # of devs is doubling every 5 years or so. OTOH I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up and management will force efficiencies going forward.

> I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up…

This is a naive and pessimistic view. The software industry is much bigger than the VC bubble. See patio11s law for more details.

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“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore

It is interesting, because ( admittedly based on limited anecdata, so please correct me if you think it is not representative of what you saw ) the interview processes I was a part of favored non-academic, non-credentialled applicants ( sometimes due to petty stuff like being able to pay less and sometimes due to anti-academic stance ) for technically oriented positions.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore

Unless you have really good projects to show off and have been studying LC a lot in your spare time - it’s gonna be hard to get a job for normies without one. Entry level is absolutely flooded with overqualified candidates.

It’s no surprise that almost all boot camp grads I’ve seen in the industry come from Ivy league colleges or are URT.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore

I have not seen any correlation between a person’s abilities as a developer and their university credentials.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore

I mean - you're going to be incredibly hard pressed to get an interview at FAANG with no work experience and no degree.

But, yes, if you're willing to work your way up the ladder - you don't need any school.

You can probably get a good job faster by graduating from a good school, though.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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“Software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers typically need a bachelor’s degree in computer and information technology or a related field. Some employers prefer to hire developers who have a master’s degree.“ Interesting that the government continues to peddle credentialism for software developers. I personally think a CS degree is still a strong positive signal but it’s hardly a requirement anymore

This is probably skewed by H1B applications, where employers have an easier time with the lottery with a more advanced degree. Bachelor's fall into the common 65k/year bucket that puts applicants at risk regardless of qualifications.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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"Overall employment of software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers is projected to grow 25 percent from 2021 to 2031, much faster than the average for all occupations."

Job Security. As long as you learn whatever new fad frameworks replace React.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

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"Overall employment of software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers is projected to grow 25 percent from 2021 to 2031, much faster than the average for all occupations." Job Security. As long as you learn whatever new fad frameworks replace React.

> As long as you learn whatever new fad frameworks replace React.

Or you could just get out of UI development - and instead of spending all your energy on staying afloat - you can actually move forward quite easily.

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

#19
post #4

25% growth in the next ten years? Isn't that a slowdown in growth? I seem to remember the Uncle Bob video where # of devs is doubling every 5 years or so. OTOH I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up and management will force efficiencies going forward.

> I feel we're at peak now, the investment money is drying up… This is a naive and pessimistic view. The software industry is much bigger than the VC bubble. See patio11s law for more details.

"patio11s law"?

Re: US Job Outlook for Software Developers, Quality Assurance Analysts, and Testers

#20
> Overall employment of software developers, quality assurance analysts, and testers is projected to grow 25 percent from 2021 to 2031, much faster than the average for all occupations.

10 years is a long enough time horizon in tech for any number of inflection points to occur. My bet is this swings heavily in the downward direction as more specialization in the industry occurs, the usage of the title "software developer" drops, but the overall usage of software and "developers" increases e.g. small businesses using low code tools

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