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Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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I'm currently working on an MVP and moved it over to railway.app

Overall the process was smooth, the React + Vite frontend app was up and running as soon as I connected GitHub and added the envars. But the dotnet backend took a little bit of trial and error to get running because it didn't like my initial Dockerfile.

Overall the process has been pretty smooth though I wish the docs were a little more robust and had more examples.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

My whole purpose in using Heroku is to avoid self-hosting something, to get the "platform as a service." Is that not the main attraction of heroku? Maybe not for everyone, if the idea of a self-hosted product as an "alternative" to heroku has traction?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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I moved to fly.io. My costs are about half. The hardest part was copying the database over. The data kept getting corrupted. Everything took about 8 hours.

Self-host redis, do not use their free beta app.

My app ruby on rails, sidekiq, hasura, redis, postgres, 2m rows, 2-5qps.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #132

Controversial opinion: given the vast majority of answers here: cheapskates looking for free tiers wherever they can find them. Heroku should’ve closed that free tier years ago! Now they added some very very cheap plans as well which is fantastic for them = gets rid of some of the horrendous cost from platform abuse they dealt with every quarter. Good for you Heroku, you were always under appreciated by the enterpris…

> Now they added some very very cheap plans as well which is fantastic for them Can you share a link to their new plans? The pricing listed on their old page ( https://www.heroku.com/pricing ) still showing $7/mo as their cheapest option and it's already an overkill for my applications. In comparison, the cheapest option on fly.io is $1.94/mo ( https://fly.io/docs/about/pricing/ ). Note: I know $7 is the maximum cost…

I think they aren't in effect yet, but were announced in this blog post from last week: https://blog.heroku.com/new-low-cost-plans

I am not sure if it will meet your expectations though, it doesn't really provide something much cheaper than 7/month or for an always-on production service. As I see it, the "eco" dyno is mainly a way to more easily save money with transient dynos (used for things other than production services) -- it does meet your concern about hobby dynos not sleeping though!

There's also a new cheaper very limited postgres corresponding to the previous free postgres.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

My whole purpose in using Heroku is to avoid self-hosting something, to get the "platform as a service." Is that not the main attraction of heroku? Maybe not for everyone, if the idea of a self-hosted product as an "alternative" to heroku has traction?

Presumably this is why the cloud/hosted version OP is working on has a good chance of being profitable. Open source means it's hostable as a backup plan, but the cloud version is there for those who want the convenience.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #91

Is there any context regarding moving apps off Heroku? I don’t have any apps there myself but I’ve worked on projects hosted on Heroku and I remember being happy with that provider. Did they raise prices, change their services, or something similar?

Generally they've been having an increasing number of embarrassing mistakes/problems/outages that they handle clunkily, and do not seem to be investing in the future of their service.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #150

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

When did it become acceptable for the official installation method to be running a random script on your server? No one should be running that without personally verifying each line. What if I want to uninstall it? (I haven’t looked at this script) but many don’t effectively clean up properly after uninstalling, as that’s an afterthought. What is specifically wrong with the dozens of existing packaging solutions we a…

Do you also verify each line of the software that the script is installing?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #59

I have 4 apps running on fly.io for most of this year and can recommend them. 2 are elixir apps that have been created on fly, 1 was an elixir app I had running on heroku, and 1 was rails app on heroku I recently migrated. I used their heroku migrator and it worked pretty much automatically. I had a few steps to follow to move the DB, but their docs covered it - https://fly.io/docs/rails/getting-started/migrate-from-…

I also moved my postgres/django backend to fly.io using their automated tool which worked flawlessly, and my frontend (sveltekit) went to vercel.

Both services have been flawless so far at a much better cost/value proposition.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

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post #11

I found great advice on Twitter https://twitter.com/pauld_fgc/status/1574107791651905536 by Paul P. API & Platform Results: Rails: @Railway wins. Render wakeup boot extremely slow (~1m). Flyio cannot run Rails for free. Crystal: @Render wins. 5-10s wakeup boot time. Railway & Fly keep growing memory infinitely. Node: @flydotio + Railway both win. Very slow boot on Render.

For Crystal, I wrote the IdleGC shard https://github.com/compumike/idle-gc to combat slow memory growth. Runs garbage collection when not servicing requests. Running in production on https://totalrealreturns.com/
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