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Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#91

Post by thih9 » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:01 AM UTC

Is there any context regarding moving apps off Heroku?

I don’t have any apps there myself but I’ve worked on projects hosted on Heroku and I remember being happy with that provider.

Did they raise prices, change their services, or something similar?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#92

Post by sandGorgon » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:02 AM UTC

andrasbacsai wrote: post #70

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

this is very very cool! one question - u deploy to individual servers right ? can u target deploy to a kubernetes platform. Like EKS? I couldnt find it in your docs.

Because one of the cool things about Heroku is scale-up. A cool project here is https://sst.dev/. Would love to see EKS/GKE native integration there.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#93

Post by rishabhd » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:04 AM UTC

Closed everything and now I grow potatoes.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#94

Post by mariusio » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:08 AM UTC

I was asking myself exactly the same question today. I would especially be interested in providers that have data centers in Australia, as most of them don’t unfortunately.

What can you recommend for an Heroku alternative down under?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#95

Post by iddan » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:09 AM UTC

We wrote a blog post with a comparison of the prominent alternatives for Heroku: https://blog.flycode.com/7-excellent-alternatives-to-heroku we compare there Render, Fly.io, Railway, Porter, Northflank, Koyeb and Qoddi.com

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#96

Post by nomilk » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:11 AM UTC

thih9 wrote: post #91

Is there any context regarding moving apps off Heroku? I don’t have any apps there myself but I’ve worked on projects hosted on Heroku and I remember being happy with that provider. Did they raise prices, change their services, or something similar?

Skimming HN over the past year shows many negatives and very few positives: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru...

TL;DR

- Security issues

- Declining innovation (since being owned by Salesforce)

- Changes to pricing/plans

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#97

Post by stefanyas » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:11 AM UTC

rishabhd wrote: post #93

Closed everything and now I grow potatoes.

Most based comment I've read this week.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#98

Post by andrasbacsai » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:13 AM UTC

sandGorgon wrote: post #92

andrasbacsai wrote: post #70

Hey, Andras here, founder of Coolify ( https://coolify.io ). Coolify is an open-source & self-hostable Heroku / Netlify alternative. Lots of features are added day-by-day and I'm open for new ones. Visit our Github ( https://github.com/coollabsio/coolify ) or our feedback page ( https://feedback.coolify.io/ ) to get more info. A few months ago, I quit my job and started to work on it full-time (best decision I've mad…

this is very very cool! one question - u deploy to individual servers right ? can u target deploy to a kubernetes platform. Like EKS? I couldnt find it in your docs. Because one of the cool things about Heroku is scale-up. A cool project here is https://sst.dev/ . Would love to see EKS/GKE native integration there.

Atm, only individual servers, but Coolify will be able to deploy to any Kubernetes platform soon, natively.

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#99

Post by ifore » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

movedx wrote: post #71

Dave3of5 wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Eek what a hot take. He's talking about the pricing model not the way to operate it. AWS bills for egress data. You can't operate it in any different way to stop that.

Sure about that? So if I have static images going through an ALB to the requesting client, I can't operate in another way to reduce those costs? ... you're sure?

Sure you can front static assets with the free Cloudflare tier...

[a] which is fine if you're happy with the inflexibility that free Cloudflare offers. And you live in a country where the free tier doesn't have horrible routing (eg use the Sydney AWS region, put Cloudflare in front of it and then watch your traffic to/from Sydney take a round trip via the US or Singapore)

[b] every single AWS service charges egress fees (ie Cloudfront doesn't help at all)

[c] this does nothing for non-static assets

Am I missing something?

Re: Ask HN: So you moved off Heroku, where did you go?

#100

Post by pSYoniK » Tue, Oct 04, 2022, 10:17 AM UTC

1. Not a lot of work, probably a day to move things. 2. Almost none. I used Heroku and understood what it was doing on a very surface level. I knew I could push my repo and my project would automagically be "there", but since I was early on in my learning process, I didn't know for sure what was happening. So the migration was a great experience to understand how to setup my website, how to setup a reverse proxy, how to prepare the certificates, how to secure a linux box and many many more (it's an ongoing process!) 3. Extremely. I am now a huge supporter of IAAS in general. I think all the things I learned are valuable in general and widely applicable. I know what an lsblk does, I know what ufw allow/deny does and so on. Hell, at the most basic level I understand how to use nano to edit some config files, how to search or edit files from a terminal. I really enjoy it and I went as far as to setup my own home server. 4-5. A lot cheaper now. I had one website running and another hobby project and that was 7$ a month. I have my website now (static page with caddy as reverse proxy), pihole vps, another VPS used to do backup checks, VPN server - all these are free, except the website which runs on the cheapest Hetzner vps and I could probably run other things on it. 6. I think everyone should spend some time deploying their apps o a remote server, securing it and accessing it. Even if you never use this again, it will help you understand how to manage all of these things and get a better idea of the information flow from start to finish. Learning how to poke around a command line is also very helpful.