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Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#32

Love hckr news, it has basically replaced the "front page" of Hacker News for me. So much easier to find the top/relevant/most discussed stories at a glance, particularly for last week's news!

I just saw this for the first time. It seems to address a lot of issues with hacker news that I never liked. Including the hands off / casual attittude to usability and design. Tiny fonts, fiddly links, etc. Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks.

This is the same content but with a better and responsive design. And by that I don't just mean how it looks but the core functionality of the site. How it looks is actually pretty minimalistic and clean.

Finding stuff back on HN is tricky because the page changes all the time and the items re-order and disappear. This gets rid of that by sorting by time. And then you can narrow it down with top 10% and top 50%. So simple and effective. I loved Twitter and Facebook a lot more before they decided to be "clever" and hired a lot of machine learning propeller heads that completely ruined the experience by trying to second guess what I should be seeing and not seeing (which mostly serves their needs rather than mine).

HN of course has a much more simplistic algorithm of some formula involving time, upvotes, and number of comments. It works in combination with the old school paged list of stuff where the page size was set in stone to 30. It creates a sense of urgency for people to get their link on the front page. It's prime real-estate and it replaced slashdot in that sense.

This seems to keep the best parts of that by simply sorting by time and getting rid of the 30 items per page thing with a more modern design. You can simply scroll back as far as you want and still benefit from the "frontpage" notion by filtering.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#33

Flagged articles aren't removed or shaded differently on this alternative frontend, which is a huge waste of time.

Are flagged and dead the same? There's a "Show dead?" option in the settings.

That setting only works on logged in hacker news accounts. Won’t work on third party sites unless they have access to your auth cookies.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#34

Love hckr news, it has basically replaced the "front page" of Hacker News for me. So much easier to find the top/relevant/most discussed stories at a glance, particularly for last week's news!

I just saw this for the first time. It seems to address a lot of issues with hacker news that I never liked. Including the hands off / casual attittude to usability and design. Tiny fonts, fiddly links, etc. Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks. This is the same content but with a better and responsive design. And by that I don't just mean how it looks but the core functionality of the site. How it looks is act…

> Try using it on a mobile browser. It sucks.

I’d been gradually customizing it on my phone by using an inspector extension and a custom CSS extension. Recently another poster shared a more thorough stylesheet, so I switched to that. It wasn’t entirely my preference but it’s close enough that I was satisfied to stop trying to customize someone else’s website on my phone.

Well, since then one thing after another has started getting smaller and closer together again, presumably as selectors change for other purposes.

I’ve previously built a dark mode extension that I won’t link because it’s also broken now. I’d love to actually contribute mobile friendly styles that people could opt into. But as far as I can tell HN is intended to be used by people with perfect eyesight and perfect hand eye coordination with a mouse on a good desk surface and a large screen.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#35

Flagged articles aren't removed or shaded differently on this alternative frontend, which is a huge waste of time.

I actually like that because sometimes flagged posts are just an unpopular opinion which I'd like to hear.

Browsing with showdead is weirdly revealing. Most dead comments I see are inflammatory but some are just unpopular takes. Often I disagree with them too but I’m glad I see them. Most dead top level posts are dead for no apparent reason, and seem to have been dead on arrival. They often look like reasonable submissions, at least browsing shownew which I do regularly. I’d even vouch for many of them but there’s no context for why they’re DOA and I have enough disagreements with HN moderation without blindly going on a vouching spree against mysterious judgments.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that lets people communicate what their vote means. Honestly that'd be nice. I don't know about details, but some way to know why a comment is gray would be nice.

You can learn about this on a post on GitHub about much (but not all) of HN's undocumented behavior [1]: "All comments start with a score of 1 point (but in order to prevent bandwagoning, the comment score is not visible to users other than the author). After users reach 501 Karma, they gain the ability to downvote another comment. Downvoted comments (i.e. with a score [1] https://github.com/minimaxir/hacker-news-und…

That’s more how than why. I also want to know why people downvote things a lot of the time. I’m not perfect at always commenting productively but I really try, and it miffs me when I add something I think has value and see it downvoted without a comment explaining why. Sometimes it’s a topic under debate and I’m trying to better just accept that people are disagreeing without using their words. Sometimes though it’s a technical topic with no apparent disagreement and I share some insight about the topic, and just wonder why anyone thought “nope it’s bad you shared that knowledge”.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> that lets people communicate what their vote means. Honestly that'd be nice. I don't know about details, but some way to know why a comment is gray would be nice.

Usually comments are grayed out if either it's been downvoted a lot (some sort of upvote to downvote ratio) or if it's been "FLAGGED" or "DEAD".

Sorry, perhaps I phrased that poorly. I understand that gray is a sign of negative score; I mean to say that it would be helpful to have an understanding of why a comment has been downvoted. Sometimes it's clear; some comments are rude, unhelpful, factually incorrect, etc. But sometimes it's not clear at all: Did people just disagree? Is there a factual error that I can't see? Sometimes grayed-out comments with no replies are really frustrating, because I can't see why they got downvoted. Slashdot's system is nice in that it at least makes people give a hint as to why a comment was downmodded. (I'm not saying I strongly want that system specifically, just something to provide more signal.)

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#39

Nicely done. I made one[0] for myself that splits by day, and otherwise orders by score within day, but grouped into categories and keywords (or site). Clicking the title shows yesterday's or older stories. It started out being a single page view that I could load while commuting in the subway that had intermittent Internet on my phone, and load several story links at each stop. I've since stopped commuting of course…

I've been working on something like this for twitter.

I need to keep track of twitter for work purposes but I don't want to login everyday.

Having quick next/previous tabs for days plus sort by likes or comments is invaluable.

Re: Hckr news – Hacker News sorted by time

#40
This has been my portal to get to HN for several years. Clean, with an easier to browse/scan interface (compared to bare HN), easy to find the posts with most votes and comments, and filtering options (which I rarely use).

For some reason, I’ve found that I still miss some interesting posts with hckrnews. Maybe it’s because those posts have been pushed down in ranking over the hours I’m not checking or because I’m not using the available filters. So I still go to HN directly sometimes.

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