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Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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Not the last time we were sold out by London.

I wonder how much of a concept or identity England/English was to any given local compared to their local loyalties, regional lords and etc.

land, language, culture -- bonds that apply from local to city-state .. once it scales up then law, economic roles .. offhand

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I think "corporation" in this context is just a slightly antiquated term for a unit of local government.

It’s not even antiquated depending on where you live. Mumbai is a corporation.

So is San Francisco: a municipal corporation with a Charter. It’s an overlooked detail, but it’s not just a choice of phrasing. Corporations are just groups of individuals acting as a single entity under law, and incorporated cities in California and most of the States I’ve looked at are no different in that regard.

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Video by CGP Grey: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrObZ_HZZUc

Can't recommend this enough. It captures how truly historically unique this place is.

I watched the Video but besides the "king entering the city ceremony" it didn't show what it makes it unique compared to other city states around the world.

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

It's not that different. There are 43 police forces in the country, with different specialities, and the City of London force leads (not very well) on financial crime. Businesses do have a vote in local elections, but that was standard across the UK until the Representation of the People Act 1969. The Corporation of London is basically just a local council like any other, albeit with a load of money and a load of mea…

Well on the one hand you're saying it's not that strange, on the other there's the election process for who can become Lord Mayor of the City of London. ;)

In most parts of the country the "Worshipful Society of Apothecaries" plays very little part in local governance...

Here's another video from CGP Grey that explains it rather well:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1ROpIKZe-c

...and when did all this start? No body knows. It's so old there are no records.

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

I used to work in The City, for a time I considered to rent from there at a walking distance from work.

It's truly unique place and I love it but one day I stayed at work till late and noticed that the place turned into a ghost town once the salarymen went home. Then went a few times cycling there in the weekend and I was astonished how empty it was. I actually enjoy solitude but the area is very business oriented and scared me away. Kind of regret not living there for a while, it would have been an experience.

Here are a few photos at the off hours, a bit too empty for a place that is extremely crowded at the day.

https://imgur.com/a/sgo7Yxe

edit: I particularly like this panorama image : https://imgur.com/a/yfh5hXN

At rush hour that location is so crowded that you can't walk without bumping into people but on the weekends you barely see people, even the tourists are not plenty despite being on a nice summer day.

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For those that don't know, "William the Conqueror" is also known as "William the Bastard". This was not the name used by my school teachers and I just wonder how different history lessons would have been had this name been used. The Normans were Vikings that 'co-opted' the women in Normandy to become 'Normans'. Not the first empire to expand with rape and pillage, but it is interesting how British history accommodate…

In the French history he’s just William of Normandy.

Mmmm. In French he is known as "Guillaume le conquérant". Never heard of "William of Normandy".

Re: The City of London’s oldest document is currently on public display

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For those that don’t know, the City of London is the ancient Roman core of Metropolitan London. It has its own separate police force, distinct from the Metropolitan Police that looks after the rest of London. The City is also governed differently to the rest of England. I’m guessing this document is probably part of the reason why. It’s the only place in the UK that’s not run on the basis of 1 person 1 vote. Instead…

I used to work in The City, for a time I considered to rent from there at a walking distance from work. It's truly unique place and I love it but one day I stayed at work till late and noticed that the place turned into a ghost town once the salarymen went home. Then went a few times cycling there in the weekend and I was astonished how empty it was. I actually enjoy solitude but the area is very business oriented an…

I think the tourists instinctively feel that this place is not a place of honor.

"The City of London is the only part of Britain over which parliament has no authority."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corpor...

https://www.economist.com/britain/2001/08/02/the-mayors-new-...

https://www.ft.com/content/41dba03e-5d29-11e5-9846-de406ccb3...

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