Reminder: The pre-industrial baseline is 300 deaths per 100k births. Modern medicine is able to prevent 97% of maternal deaths. Be thankful for that and don't be bitter that its not 100% yet.
Pregnancy-Related Deaths: Data from Maternal Mortality Review Committees
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#72I remember years ago when I was studying various aspects of the health insurance market, there was one thing that really, truly alarmed me: the amount of Medicaid money spent on pregnancy-related care. It was shocking to me. Pregnant women who don't see their doctors regularly end up costing the system an absolute fortune. It is a sad plague among many of the poor who have lots of problems themselves, a big one being drug addiction. This is an extremely uncomfortable for many that they don't want to deal with, so they ignore or make excuses or deny, but it's a really sad reality. I've basically come to the conclusion that 95% of the problems in this country can be traced back to people who have no business having kids, having kids.
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#73This is timely! I recently found out we are pregnant with our first child, and I spent a good amount of time looking up prenatal care in the USA. The statistics are staggering. USA has the worst infant mortality in the rich world. We spent 1/5th of our GDP on health industries, and we're getting nothing for it. Just a handful of really rich people.
But keep in mind this:
> Upon examination, however, the discrepancy between the U.S. and other countries appears largely due to country-to-country differences in the way infant mortality statistics are compiled. Infant mortality is defined differently in different countries, and the U.S. definition is notably broader than that of most other countries.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/infant-mo...
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
USA is the richest country of the world and does not have paid maternity leave. It is very weird and my hypothesis is that this fact relates to these mental health conditions.
At a federal level no, but some states do require many weeks at minimum. I also think 9months is beyond excessive for maternity/paternity leave (father of kids here).
My first born, now about 5, was born while I was aggressively chasing promotions in a tech company. During her first year I mostly saw her to put her to bed at night and on the weekends.
This time around I’m a full time indie hacker and I see my son for hours every day. He’s six months old now. I’m insanely fortunate to have a profitable and growing business, but I’ve come to believe that everybody should be able to have months with their children without losing their house, insurance, etc.
It may seem crazy but 100 years ago a 40 hour work week seemed crazy to many.
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#75The third leading cause of death in the United States is believed to be preventable medical errors. Anyways, I have never been pregnant, but if you saw what happened to me medically this summer, you would be doing everything you could to be leaving the US. Anyways, I am a dual citizen. My other nationality is Croatian, but I don’t plan on living there. Even Croatia, you know which went through a horrific war 30 years…
What makes a medical error "preventable"?
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Often SNAP is called "food stamps", but they're similar: https://www.benefits.gov/news/article/439
I thought the 80ties behind iron curtain were bad because we had food stamps.
Wait until you hear about Government Cheese [0].
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#77It's a theoretical claim (unproved, as acting on a system changes the system) Also, it's missing the crucial implication: at what price? With infinite amount of money, there are many things we could do. We don't have infinite money. Consider how the richest EU state in adjusted PPP per capita (so price levels can't be blamed) is just now barely richer than the poorest US state, in both the median and average Do we re…
> Do we really want to become that poor? Well, that depends. Are we talking about your child or my child?
> Well, that depends. Are we talking about your child or my child?
Give it a few generations and it doesn't matter.
Funny enough, in the US, our rich and retired try to move to the EU, while young people from the EU try to move to here.
So if the people flow is to be believed, it's clear which place favors the working class, and which places favor a rentier approach.
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#78It's interesting that they don't discuss one easy way to prevent pregnancy complications for both mother and child: don't be obese or overweight
See https://www.nature.com/articles/pr9201134
From the Nature article:
"Obesity is associated with increased risk of almost all pregnancy complications: gestational hypertension, preeclampsia, gestational diabetes mellitus, delivery of large-for-GA infants, and higher incidence of congenital defects all occur more frequently than in women with a normal BMI."
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#79Reminder when comparing with other nations that as this study states: "Pregnancy-related deaths occurred during pregnancy, delivery, and up to a year postpartum. " The measure can be very different elsewhere. The WHO defines a maternal death as "the death of a woman while pregnant or within 42 days of termination of pregnancy , irrespective of the duration and the site of the pregnancy, from any cause related to or a…
Also, mental health conditions and cardiomyopathy are "preventable"? Their definition of Preventability stretches credibility- lowering the risk is different from preventing something. "A death is considered preventable if the committee determines that there was at least some chance of the death being averted by one or more reasonable changes to patient, community, provider, facility, and/or systems factors."
> Also, mental health conditions and cardiomyopathy are "preventable"?
They said that the deaths are preventable, not the conditions themselves.
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