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Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Post by goatsi »

LAC-Tech wrote: post #82
goatsi wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Healthcare would be much worse without immigrants. In Canada, immigrants make up 23% of registered nurses 35% of nurse aides and related occupations 37% of pharmacists 36% of physicians 39% of dentists https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/ca...

I feel like you need to include "% of patients" as well to answer the question meaningfully.

Immigrants are 21.5% of the population. They are also on average younger than the rest of the population, so they will use less medical services. The average age of a Canadian actually went down this year for the first time in over 50 years because of younger immigrants arriving.

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Post by cycrutchfield »

pcbro141 wrote: post #22
orangepurple wrote: post #2

1 out of 100 persons randomly chosen in Canada has immigrated less than one year ago if the statistic is true: 430k new immigrants per year for a country with a population of 38 million. Wow. And considering that migrants tend to cluster together these immigration hotspots like Toronto will see multiple % growth annually in new arrivals! That is seriously fast population growth! Replacement?

> Replacement? What exactly is your question? Could be interpreted a number of ways.

You know exactly what that word is referring to.

Re: Immigration accounts for over 94% of Canada’s population growth in Q2 of 2022

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Post by sbaiddn »

bushbaba wrote: post #60
sbaiddn wrote: post #43

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Canada has a housing crisis because no one is stupid enough to arrive to Canada and move to Thunder Bay (sorry TB, but you know its true). As a result all these people go live in one of three or four cities. The situation is more akin to the rapid urbanization in the third world. Infrastructure cant keep up. Just try GTA traffic. People move to Barrie just to afford a house in the GTA (Barries not GTA!). Sure Canada…

The west lost it's ability to build new cities. Canada could be more like china and use multiple billions to build/encourage growth outside their core city centers. It has the land. Arguably GDP would benefit from having more populous cities between Vancouver and Toronto. Heck just give Canadians a 0% interest, 0 down mortgage for building a 500k home and residing in it for at least 10 years in say Regina.

"Heck just give Canadians a 0% interest, 0 down mortgage for building a 500k home and residing in it for at least 10 years in say Regina."

No one would take it because you'd be in Regina.

And the West "cant build cities" anymore because there's no need to build a city in the Prairies anymore. 100 years ago physical labor had to man farms, and therefore you had human settlements. There's no need to put a new city in between Winnipeg and Calgary except to store people in it.

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Post by Teever »

bentlegen wrote: post #62

I am sure a number of people will make comments here pointing to Canada’s struggling healthcare system as a direct effect of these immigration numbers. I just want to point out that the current and recently re-elected Ontario government (representing 14.5 million people) is currently running a $2b budget surplus [1] while simultaneously capping healthcare workers’ pay raises to just 1% a year [2] in a time of record…

That's an odd take. Most of the discussion that I see online about detrimental aspects of Canadian immigration levels are focused on housing prices/availability than health care.

I think most people acknowledge that immigrants are young and relatively more fit and therefore don't consume health services nearly as much as aging, western boomers.

The major issue we're facing due to the high immigration levels is the strain that it's putting on our housing availability levels. Those 270k people/year need to live somewhere, right now and that has direct effects on cost of living of everyone in Canada.

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Post by refurb »

version_five wrote: post #5

Immigration is not necessarily a concern. But Canada afaik does not have multicultural immigration, we have a very narrow set of countries utterly dominating our immigrants. Personally I don't think that is a good thing, diversity is important, and we need to be better at balancing the mix of people that come here to avoid monoculture

> But Canada afaik does not have multicultural immigration

This is not correct. Toronto is 52% visible minorities. Even mid-sized cities like Calgary have big immigrant populations from Asia. When I visiting the wilderness of BC I actually ran into a guy who owned a fruit orchard who immigrated from India a few years back.

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Post by abrichr »

archhn wrote: post #81

I've been watching some geopolitical strategists on YouTube. They seem to be expecting a collapse of the global world order. This means they need to flood North America with fresh labor to compensate for the loss of global labor or inefficiency of doing business in a war-torn international climate. Also, the demographics are bad in the first world. Low birth rates and an aging population. I would not be surprised if…

Interesting. Can you please share some links to the videos you are describing?

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Post by bombcar »

StanislavPetrov wrote: post #59
lettergram wrote: post #15

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In reality, it’s becoming a colony. You know how the US captured Texas? Americans moved there (on invitation of the Mexican government), then when the government of Mexico didn’t act as expected the US supported a war of independence of Texas. Who are most of the immigrants to Canada I wonder…

>Americans moved there (on invitation of the Mexican government), then when the government of Mexico didn’t act as expected the US supported a war of independence of Texas. Americans were invited to live in what is what is now Texas by Spain long before there was a Mexican government, to act as a buffer against the Comanche who had decimated Spanish ranches, towns and outposts in raids from the north.

Texas was also emptier than Nova Scotia at the time.

If Nova Scotia stats being filled with Russian immigrants maybe it’s worth noting.

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Post by refurb »

throwawaysleep wrote: post #44
mensetmanusman wrote: post #41

I’m surprised people are going where housing is so expensive, where are they living?

Housing in Canada is expensive for North America. Relative to incomes it remains cheap.

No. It's actually less affordable than the US relative to income.

That said, it's undergoing a massive correction right now, so you may be right in 3-5 years.

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Post by bombcar »

cycrutchfield wrote: post #48
dixie_land wrote: post #29

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Chinese buyers would simply buy them all with cash and rent the, back to you

That’s cool, build more of them then and pocket the cash. Free money and property taxes for your local economy. Is “Chinese buyers” supposed to sound scary or something? Honestly this reeks of xenophobia.

Canada should make multiple cities named Vancouver and build tons of houses there and sell them to unsuspecting foreigners.

Big money win/win.

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Post by bombcar »

chrischen wrote: post #26
crakenzak wrote: post #14

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No need for the aggressive tone, but maybe what the comment you’re replying to isn’t saying that the country is overpopulated, but they’re saying that the infrastructure available isn’t capable of sustaining this type of population influx (regardless of where they’re from) and leads to a lower quality of life for the people already in the country. You and OP can probably agree that infrastructure needs to improve to…

But demand has to happen first followed by infrastructure. Nobody is going to spend the money on infrastructure first then hope demand and tax receipts catch up. The correct solution is yo say hey we need to build better infrastructure now because our tax receipts are up.

Some infrastructure can be built first - for example a train line with planned stations that aren’t active yet.

Can help direct development.

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