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Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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> [Taleb] showed, through his life's work, that one can make money by betting against people that believe too much in mathematics and their applicability to the real world. Does anyone know any good examples of this?

Excellent. It’s more general than mathematics, their problem is with a Platonic worldview of idealized models. Those people mistake the models for the real world and that’s their demise.

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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post #17

> Some deep truths about human nature require instead the reflection provoked by the classics. Yes, read Dostoevsky and the classics. There is so much to learn and to enjoy. But remember that great authors didn't discover deep truths of human nature from books alone, but from their attention to the experiences of real life. “When we read, another person thinks for us: we merely repeat his mental process. In learning…

A quote that's impossible to read without some irony

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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post #90
post #17

> Some deep truths about human nature require instead the reflection provoked by the classics. Yes, read Dostoevsky and the classics. There is so much to learn and to enjoy. But remember that great authors didn't discover deep truths of human nature from books alone, but from their attention to the experiences of real life. “When we read, another person thinks for us: we merely repeat his mental process. In learning…

Similar thought from Albert Einstein (1930): > ”Much reading after a certain age diverts the mind from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking, just as the man who spends too much time in the theaters is apt to be content with living vicariously instead of living his own life.”

Whenever I read something about Einstein the following comes to my mind:

"The people told me, however, that the big ear was not only a man, but a great man, a genius. But I never believed in the people when they spake of great men - and I hold to my belief that it was a reversed cripple, who had too little of everything, and too much of one thing."

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Similar thought from Albert Einstein (1930): > ”Much reading after a certain age diverts the mind from its creative pursuits. Any man who reads too much and uses his own brain too little falls into lazy habits of thinking, just as the man who spends too much time in the theaters is apt to be content with living vicariously instead of living his own life.”

Whenever I read something about Einstein the following comes to my mind: "The people told me, however, that the big ear was not only a man, but a great man, a genius. But I never believed in the people when they spake of great men - and I hold to my belief that it was a reversed cripple, who had too little of everything, and too much of one thing."

"What a fool I am", said the fox. "Here I am wearing myself out to get a bunch of sour grapes that are not worth gaping for."

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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post #104

A _programmer_perspective_ on classic literature? This is why English majors who don't like nerds. I agree.

i also reacted negatively to the title but found the article to be redemptively unpretentious. i think any fan of dostoevsky would agree with his conclusions and be happy that this robot found a heart.

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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I met a young and apparently highly intelligent AI researcher the other week who confessed to me that he thought fiction (books but also movies etc) was a waste of his time: there was nothing to be gained there. Being a lover of fiction myself, I huffed and puffed and he challenged me to name him a book that would change his mind. Usually when people ask me where to start in literature, I advise them to start at the…

I sometimes recommend Borges (Labyrinths) and Kafka (The Trial, Short Stories) to tech people looking to get into literature.

And within labyrinths, the Library of Babel is a good place to start. Circular Ruins and the Pierre Menard/Don Quixote one are favorites.

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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I met a young and apparently highly intelligent AI researcher the other week who confessed to me that he thought fiction (books but also movies etc) was a waste of his time: there was nothing to be gained there. Being a lover of fiction myself, I huffed and puffed and he challenged me to name him a book that would change his mind. Usually when people ask me where to start in literature, I advise them to start at the…

The Little Prince maybe

Re: Why read Dostoevsky? A programmer's perspective

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post #69
post #43

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You should be more worried about Taleb being remembered in 50 years than Dostoevsky

Why should I be worried about that? Taleb is remembered now, it is relevant now, and it makes people think about Taleb now. So why not to try to understand Taleb deeper by reading Dostoevsky? If Taleb will fail to be relevant in 50 years, then no one would try to do it then. And what? Why should it worry me?

What I meant is that whether Taleb is a conduit to Dostoevsky or not has no bearing on the latter's continued relevance. Dostoevsky's relevance is not in any doubt but Taleb's is (or any other similar author).

The GP was a bit hyperbolic but I am inclined to agree with their viewpoint. The intellectual trend they are highlighting (which goes way beyond Taleb) has real consequences because it is so prevalent among tech workers and capital owners who have enormous influence on modern life.

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