> In 2020, a Pew study revealed that more than half of 18- to 29-year-old Americans were living with their parents. This is the part I think we all need to be talking about more. It’s a huge root cause of everything else the article discusses. I have come to understand adulthood as being centered on responsibilities, and adult behaviour as handling those responsibilities well. The transition to adulthood is the gradu…
Why are so many adults acting just like children?
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#132Earlier quoted context omitted.
"emoji" is a Japanese term. They were invented by Japanese phone manufacturer DoCoMo, and popularized in the west when implemented by the iPhone.
Yes, thank you, I can read Wikipedia as well. This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine.
It wasn't intended to, it was intended to correct your assertion that emojis were first used by American men, apparently on the basis of having glanced at the result of a Google search. The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they are specifically feminine. It does claim that Japanese women were, by virtue of Japanese culture allowing them to follow 'childish' trends more so than their male peers, a predominant force in the shaping of kawaii culture and the adoption of emoji, making their usage more associated with feminine than masculine behavior.
It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this.
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#133Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, thank you, I can read Wikipedia as well. This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine.
>This does not support the articles statement that emoji and/or emoticons were invented and popularized by women, or that emoji/emoticons are specifically feminine. It wasn't intended to, it was intended to correct your assertion that emojis were first used by American men, apparently on the basis of having glanced at the result of a Google search. The article itself never claims women invented emoji, nor that they a…
It does, it is included in a paragraph about things that women created/popularized.
> It's honestly weird that you're so hung up on this.
Yeah I'll admit that. I was thinking about it when writing my comment. I think I have seen too many 'just-so' stories about Japan and become hypersensitive to them.
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#134Earlier quoted context omitted.
A motivation would be to increase the likelihood of one's perceptions of what's going on aligning with what is actually going on (which is what Trump supporters are often criticized for). Whether this qualifies for being worth it is largely (but not necessarily entirely) a subjective matter.
You’re begging the question
This is false, because I have not actually done any such thing (it is not contained in my text, or the ideas behind my text). In fact, what physically/objectively occurred is that I explicitly did the opposite: "I think it's worth considering whether...").
I might respond by saying that you are engaging in rhetoric:
Rhetoric: language designed to have a persuasive or impressive effect on its audience, but often regarded as lacking in sincerity or meaningful content.
...but then, this would be to assume conscious (and perhaps nefarious) intent.
Rather, I suspect most likely what is happening is that you are (or, something is) engaging in perception.
Perception: a way of regarding, understanding, or interpreting something; a mental impression.
What do you think about this perspective?
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#135I don't even understand why do people become adult in the first place. Sure, your body changes and you begin to understand some more complex things you previously couldn't (and that's fun), but why change anything else? Why be boring and take bullshit seriously?
When you are a child your concept of adultness is heavily based on dignity. Grownup have dignity and kids do not (to varying degree). As people grow up they try and maximise personal dignity. The irony is that letting go of dignity is necessary for many of the most important parts of adulthood. Think about dating, having kids, romance, sex, or even starting a new job. Not always dignified but necessary.
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#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
You’re begging the question
Begging the question: Begging the question is a logical fallacy in which an argument's premises assume the truth of the conclusion. Arguments that beg the question work to obscure the actual points in controversy and can be looked at as a form of circular reasoning. This is false, because I have not actually done any such thing (it is not contained in my text, or the ideas behind my text). In fact, what physically/ob…
Your conclusion is that I should consider whether I am being childish in claiming that it is childish for someone to support Trump. When I asked you why you would think this you said that it is because it would increase the likelihood of my perception being aligned with reality. So you are starting with the assumption that my perception is not aligned with reality and then concluding that I should reconsider it. So your premise is that I am wrong and therefore you conclude that I should reconsider. That is what it means to beg the question.
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#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
Begging the question: Begging the question is a logical fallacy in which an argument's premises assume the truth of the conclusion. Arguments that beg the question work to obscure the actual points in controversy and can be looked at as a form of circular reasoning. This is false, because I have not actually done any such thing (it is not contained in my text, or the ideas behind my text). In fact, what physically/ob…
"A motivation would be to increase the likelihood of one's perceptions of what's going on aligning with what is actually going on" -- this only works if you assume that my perception is not already aligned with what is actually going on. Your conclusion is that I should consider whether I am being childish in claiming that it is childish for someone to support Trump. When I asked you why you would think this you said…
Well, unless you have a direct connection of some sort with God / The Oracle / The Universe, I suspect that you are in the same boat as the rest of us: an instance of consciousness that runs on the brain, whose access to "reality" is via your senses, and subject to some substantial subset of the various imperfections that science/psychology have documented over the years.
> Your conclusion is that I should consider whether I am being childish in claiming that it is childish for someone to support Trump.
More precisely, I said: "I think it's worth considering...."
> When I asked you why you would think this you said that it is because it would increase the likelihood of my perception being aligned with reality.
More precisely, I said: "A motivation would be to increase the likelihood....".
I also noted: "which is what Trump supporters are often criticized for", because of the potentially delicious irony (in that you were criticizing the cognitive capabilities of Trump supporters, yet when someone dares to challenge you, you deny any flaw, confidently, and respond with objectively inaccurate counter-accusations).
I also noted: "Whether this qualifies for being worth it is largely (but not necessarily entirely) a subjective matter."
From my perspective, you are describing what has happened as if I am making confident statements of fact, whereas the actual text I have written (shared/documented reality) demonstrates otherwise....which I think lends credence to the possibility that your take on reality is not actually perfect.
> So you are starting with the assumption that my perception is not aligned with reality and then concluding that I should reconsider it. So your premise is that I am wrong and therefore you conclude that I should reconsider. That is what it means to beg the question.
But only if one's premises are correct! (Yours are not.)
Further, marvel at how many unforced (I speculate) errors you've made - for extra effect: consider what percentage of the things you've said contain error.
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#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
"A motivation would be to increase the likelihood of one's perceptions of what's going on aligning with what is actually going on" -- this only works if you assume that my perception is not already aligned with what is actually going on. Your conclusion is that I should consider whether I am being childish in claiming that it is childish for someone to support Trump. When I asked you why you would think this you said…
> "A motivation would be to increase the likelihood of one's perceptions of what's going on aligning with what is actually going on" -- this only works if you assume that my perception is not already aligned with what is actually going on. Well, unless you have a direct connection of some sort with God / The Oracle / The Universe, I suspect that you are in the same boat as the rest of us: an instance of consciousness…
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#139Earlier quoted context omitted.
> "A motivation would be to increase the likelihood of one's perceptions of what's going on aligning with what is actually going on" -- this only works if you assume that my perception is not already aligned with what is actually going on. Well, unless you have a direct connection of some sort with God / The Oracle / The Universe, I suspect that you are in the same boat as the rest of us: an instance of consciousness…
This is just to note that I cannot slow my brain down enough to respond to your comment.
I think it is interesting how dynamic people's interest is in a topic, and how this interest level can be deliberately altered by their counterpart in a conversation by speaking in very specific forms.
I also believe this phenomenon is relevant to the broader discussions in this thread.
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#140Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I gave up after a paragraph or two. It looked like it was going to moan about people trying to have fun and do some self care. I don’t have time for that. The author had quite the opposite conclusion: > The Great Regression isn’t really a regression at all. It’s a sign of resilience in the face of profound adversity. Just as I was fading a few paragraphs in, one of the straw men (IMHO) thrown out caught my eye. How…
Great reply. Thanks. Will ponder and (at least aim to) put this on my reading list.