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Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#71

Post by berntb »

danssig wrote: post #70
berntb wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got slammed by pg himself a while ago for being easily trolled, so I'll stop commenting.

Link? I'd say your ID is too big (pg has an essay on it). If you say Lisp is crap, I'm not going to be offended even though I think it's a great language. It's something I use, it isn't part of who I am.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2836920

(Why the Hell am I proving things to trolls? :-( )

Edit: And btw, I even irritated pg by arguing with a troll that was arguing quite similar things as danssig, too... :-)

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#72

Post by danssig »

berntb wrote: post #71
danssig wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Link? I'd say your ID is too big (pg has an essay on it). If you say Lisp is crap, I'm not going to be offended even though I think it's a great language. It's something I use, it isn't part of who I am.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2836920 (Why the Hell am I proving things to trolls? :-( ) Edit: And btw, I even irritated pg by arguing with a troll that was arguing quite similar things as danssig, too... :-)

Thanks for providing the link.

Having seen it, I can't help but say: lol! You took that one sentance to mean pg was upset that you were arguing with trolls? It looks to me like he thought you were trolling! All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll but only you got singled out and asked to stop. None of them and not even the alleged troll.

And again it was about perl. I think you seriously need to ask yourself why you're so incredibly sensitive about this subject. No one is criticizing you nor your family. Just a tool that has no feelings or emotions.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#73

Post by berntb »

danssig wrote: post #72
berntb wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2836920 (Why the Hell am I proving things to trolls? :-( ) Edit: And btw, I even irritated pg by arguing with a troll that was arguing quite similar things as danssig, too... :-)

Thanks for providing the link. Having seen it, I can't help but say: lol! You took that one sentance to mean pg was upset that you were arguing with trolls? It looks to me like he thought you were trolling! All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll but only you got singled out and asked to stop. None of them and not even the alleged troll. And again it was about perl. I th…

>>All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll

You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session.

http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=derrickpetzold

He was posting slams of about your level. ("in other words run the f away from Perl if you can unless you are into S&M"). And so on.

>>And again it was about perl.

It is something I use a lot, even for fun. You don't like Perl (not "perl") and write 10-20% of comments in discussions about it.

So you're just bullshitting here, as trolls do. And you got another comment out of me... :-(

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#74

Post by danssig »

berntb wrote: post #73
danssig wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for providing the link. Having seen it, I can't help but say: lol! You took that one sentance to mean pg was upset that you were arguing with trolls? It looks to me like he thought you were trolling! All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll but only you got singled out and asked to stop. None of them and not even the alleged troll. And again it was about perl. I th…

>>All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=derrickpetzold He was posting slams of about your level. (" in other words run the f away from Perl if you can unless you are into S&M "). And so on. >>And again it was about perl. It is some…

>You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session.

Oh my, it seems I've hit a nerve for some reason. In the post where pg called you specially out to stop, other people responded to the "troll". I wonder why it was only you who got singled out.

Further, you're assuming the guy was just a troll. Maybe he came on here, saw that even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here, had one big fight and then decided it wasn't worth his time to bother.

>He was posting slams of about your level.

More misrepresentation from you. Most of his "slams" were a bit over the top, where as I'm just stating facts with less hyperbole than he had.

>You don't like Perl (not "perl") and write 10-20% of comments in discussions about it.

I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away and I'm not going to stand by and let people use propaganda to bring it back. If you people want to keep on using it, go ahead, but stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end.

>So you're just bullshitting here, as trolls do. And you got another comment out of me... :-(

The lady doth protest too much, methinks (I really love that one!). I'm having a conversation here. You're constantly screaming "troll! troll!" because you have no useful counter-arguments.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#75

Post by chromatic »

danssig wrote: post #74
berntb wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>All kinds of other people were still talking to the person you accuse of being a troll You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. http://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=derrickpetzold He was posting slams of about your level. (" in other words run the f away from Perl if you can unless you are into S&M "). And so on. >>And again it was about perl. It is some…

>You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. Oh my, it seems I've hit a nerve for some reason. In the post where pg called you specially out to stop, other people responded to the "troll". I wonder why it was only you who got singled out. Further, you're assuming the guy was just a troll. Maybe he came on here, saw that even though this was supposed to be a mor…

even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here

I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away

stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end.

I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

#76

Post by danssig »

chromatic wrote: post #75
danssig wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>You are a liar. Here is his account. It is at Karma -10 and it wasn't used after that troll session. Oh my, it seems I've hit a nerve for some reason. In the post where pg called you specially out to stop, other people responded to the "troll". I wonder why it was only you who got singled out. Further, you're assuming the guy was just a troll. Maybe he came on here, saw that even though this was supposed to be a mor…

even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end. I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object.

With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

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Post by berntb »

danssig wrote: post #76
chromatic wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

even though this was supposed to be a more sophisticated crowd, there was a lot of perl support here I used perl professional for a torturous 5 years. The internet made the correct decision to move away stop dragging new programmers down your career dead-end. I think this is the kind of talk to which reasonable people might object.

With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.

>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine

You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict).

But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

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Post by danssig »

berntb wrote: post #77
danssig wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

With all due respect, I don't think you're the one to know what "reasonable people" might object to. Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine if not more-so.

>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.

>so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar

Citation needed?

>chromatic just noted that you're trolling

Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy.

>But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them.

I'm not sure "troll" means what you think it does. It doesn't mean someone who has points you don't like but have no good answer for.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

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Post by berntb »

danssig wrote: post #78
berntb wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.

>so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar Citation needed? >chromatic just noted that you're trolling Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy. >But the real problem for HN isn't bad tro…

That was really funny!

>>points you don't like but have no good answer for.

Your "arguments" are personal attacks ("the lady doth protest too much", "irrational perl fanboy", etc, etc) and language slams without motivation (see e.g. list by chromatic).

You have no serious arguments -- e.g. what would be better than CPAN, Moose or MooseX::Declare. (You probably never used them, since you don't even know the name of Perl, but write "perl".)

Thanks for making my weekend, troll.

Re: Why is Funding Perl Core Development So Difficult?

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Post by chromatic »

danssig wrote: post #78
berntb wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>>Your bias is as clear and well documented as mine You've claimed repeatedly to be serious and only argue facts -- so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar (in addition to your usual personal attacks; chromatic just noted that you're trolling, which you didn't try to contradict). But the real problem for HN isn't bad trolls like you, it is fools like me that feed them. Bye.

>so now you not only lied but admitted to be a liar Citation needed? >chromatic just noted that you're trolling Is English your native tongue? He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended. I pointed out that he's a poor choice to make this call. I don't think a reasonable person would be offended at what I said at all. Only an irrational perl fanboy. >But the real problem for HN isn't bad tro…

He quoted me and then claimed a "reasonable" person would be offended.

That's not what I wrote; you're putting words in my mouth. Even if, as you imply, my brain has been so irreparably damaged by my experience using Perl (among other languages) that I am incapable of rationality, that's still a disingenuous discussion technique.

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