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OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by Reason077 »

cjensen wrote: post #159

OpenStreetMap is very very good. In many ways, I prefer it to Apple and Google. But the 2022 version suffers from a number of issues that Google and Apple are both suffering from recently: a lack of focus on who this map is for . Is this map ornamental? Or is it for driving? Walking? Finding tourist locations? What is it for? One of the obvious changes in OSM between 2012 and 2022 is the addition of building footprin…

> "a lack of focus on who this map is for. Is this map ornamental? Or is it for driving? Walking? Finding tourist locations? What is it for?"

That's the whole point! Think of OpenStreetMap as a global spatial database of raw map data. An infinite variety of specialised maps can be generated from this data. Maps for driving, for hiking, for public transport, for cycling, and much more: it all depends on what renderer is used.

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Rendering

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by csteubs »

benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

I'm working through similar gamification of map update questions right now, specifically with aerial imaging. We're trying to crowdsource aerial imagery using (for now) passengers in window seats, so the most obvious solution was to provide them free in-flight wifi so that we could upload the images as they're captured as well. They don't record the entire flight, just at certain points based on altitude and tasked coordinates along their filed flight path. Most have appreciated the gesture, but a good amount would prefer airline miles, free in-flight goods, etc. We've looked into chain-based royalties where an image accessed by our customers is paid out to the original photographer, but that's a ways out. Gamification is tricky.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by geenew »

Does anyone have a quick summary they could offer on how forestry tiles are added?

It's clear that they are added in blocks - edges to forest-cover data are at edges of very large (100km?) tiles.

I wonder, though, where that information comes from. Public sources GIS, and analysis of public satellite imagery, are two possibilities that come to mind.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by zaik »

petesergeant wrote: post #94
pwg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

Every time I see this I seriously consider buying a cheap Android device to play with it

For Apple phones there is also the recently published Every Door app: https://every-door.app/

It'a however a little bit more technical and not all gamified and glossy.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by zaik »

dewey wrote: post #59
alt227 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is the main thing I hate about google maps. I refuse to do free work for google in return for 'fun'.

I also want to hate it, but in reality I recently uploaded my first picture and then get monthly updates on how many hundreds of people have seen it and I have to admit the gamification works :( On the topic: I think it would be a good idea for OSM if done in a good and non-technical user-friendly way.

There is no way for OSM to know how many people use your contribution in which way.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by solardev »

geenew wrote: post #163

Does anyone have a quick summary they could offer on how forestry tiles are added? It's clear that they are added in blocks - edges to forest-cover data are at edges of very large (100km?) tiles. I wonder, though, where that information comes from. Public sources GIS, and analysis of public satellite imagery, are two possibilities that come to mind.

I am not sure if these are correct/current, but there's a lot of info in the wiki:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_States/Public_lan...

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/US_Forest_Service_Data

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TIGER

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by solardev »

specialist wrote: post #114
crimsoneer wrote: post #35

Honestly, OSM is a damn triumph.

Emphatic agreement. I was doing CAD & GIS in the 80s. We certainly foresaw this stuff. Even so, I'm just gobsmacked by the number and quality of all the map & GIS systems.

Was ESRI the industry titan back then too? These days there are a bunch of open-source/open-data initiatives and they're making it MUCH more pleasant to do GIS, thankfully.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by reaperducer »

Grimburger wrote: post #63
pwg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…

If that's how you treat newcomers then I want nothing to do with you.

OSM is like Wikipedia for maps. Complete with all of Wikipedia's baggage and wannabe bureaucrats.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by benbristow »

BetaDeltaAlpha wrote: post #125
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

Web3 is on it https://hivemapper.com/

$649 for a dashcam probably worth $50 being generous on Wish.com/AliExpress to earn some random crypto. Hmmm.
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