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Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I'm not sure if they are considered startups per say, but I've started two profitable companies while working a day job (to the point where I could quit my day job!) http://www.AUsedCar.com and http://www.BudgetSimple.com . I should say I also created a failed startup during that time. The biggest difference between the successes and the failure were that the successes did not require me to answer phone calls, make s…

Hi ry AUsedCar.com How does that site compare in a very busy market with established big name players? Thanks

It's very difficult to compete with the big names, but even .01% of a huge market adds up to something significant.

edit I should also say I started this a LONG time ago, so I have a long tail SEO advantage. I wouldn't envy anyone trying to start a used car site today.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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raises hand

My current company started out as a side project. I decided to make it a fulltime project after about three years. We are quite profitable.

Today, we operate a few "premium" domain name businesses, but we started with a rather obscure one, and did well enough to purchase more properties from cash flow.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I started StyleFeeder in January, 2005, built it into a profitable company of 8 people and sold it to Time Inc in January 2010. From January, 2005 through May, 2006, I worked on StyleFeeder on the side - while I had a pretty demanding day job, mind you - as I built up the basic business... until I had invested so much time and effort into it that I was maxed out and needed to find a way to work on it full time with t…

Very interesting post, is there a one detailing how you started?

Sorta...

http://www.whirlycott.com/phil/2005/10/17/stylefeeder-step-1...

LMK if that's not what you are looking for.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I found it incredibly difficult to provide the value I'd expect out of an employee at a "day job" while building my business on the side. Ultimately, I took a different route. Note that this plan works best for young, single folks. This is also not a "get rich quick" scheme. Positioning myself took about three years on its own, much less getting going on a start-up. Keep in mind that this was my plan. It is not the only (or best) plan, but it worked for me.

* Position yourself for minimum cash outflow. Minimizing your cash needs means you can take bigger risks. I found a decent 500 sq ft apartment and drove a cheap car. Without a family, all my other expenses were dirt cheap.

* Save up a three month buffer and strike out on your own gig, but not your start-up yet. I chose consulting because the income potential is so high and it provided a great networking opportunity. I doubled my annual income (from my old salary) within a year, but far more importantly, I was able to accomplish a few transitional steps in getting my start-up going:

- I built a relationship with a great developer by feeding him work from consulting clients.

- I built relationships with other business owners and took a lot of time to understand their business.

- Ultimately, I met the person who would connect me with the greatest team I've ever worked with.

By the time I found the right team and opportunity, I had a year's worth of expenses saved up, and a small amount of money to contribute to the operational expenses of the company. Coming to the table with cash in-hand gained me a lot of respect from other team members. Because everyone came to the table with their own income streams, we were able to bootstrap and now, 100% of our equity is founder owned. That's a pretty exciting reality for us.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I and 2 cofounders are near to launching our iphone app and we have our daily job.

I'm the backend and frontend developer(rest-full api needed for our iphone app), the other two are the creative guys, and I've to admit that it has been hard to think, design, and do a product in a spare time(especially if you have a wife and a child).

And there are other aspects of the launching such as the site, the company to found and many things that require a lot of time.

I hope the app and the business I want to build around succeded so I will quit my current profitable job.

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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Doing a startup is 90% waiting, and 10% doing. It's perfectly possible to do one on the weekend. Especially since coding is a tiny iota of actually doing one, most of it boils down to marketing anyways

I must be doing something wrong then. I'm constantly running out of time. I'm always thinking about who to meet, who to talk to, what to change in order to become better. Not to mention optimizing text, updating the blog, doing the paperwork... I don't understand the 'waiting' part really.

then you probably just started...I don't mean the first few weeks after you launch...there is plenty of things to do then.

I mean that period for all sites after the launch coverage, the time where your traffic goes down to almost 0.

Who to meet/who to talk to...should have been done prior to launch.

optimizing text? it takes a while to do a/b testing if your traffic is tiny...same goes for seeing results from marketing campaigns.

updating the blog? that takes a few hours each week.

I mean sure, there is plenty of things to keep you busy, but most of it is just busy work you assign yourself because you are thinking "hey, I'm doing a startup, I should be doing something"

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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I started a couple of profitable small businesses while working a ton of hours management consulting, including a headphone website where I used all my vacation to travel to China to get my products manufactured cheaper. I was hoping to do a few things on the side until it made sense to quit my day job, but I found it never made sense to quit my day job.

More incredibly to me is FeeFighters (http://feefighters.com) CEO Sean was

1) Raising a VC round

2) Having his first kid

and 3) Working full-time at BCG

All at the same time (May 2010) Any one of those are enough to make you go crazy, but he managed all 3. (note: FeeFighters is not profitable)

He also previously started http://tss-radio.com and bootstrapped it to a spot on the inc 500 list, all on the side while working at a VC firm (Longworth) and then while at BCG (management consulting).

Re: Ask HN: How many of you built a profitable startup while having a day job?

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You mean "profitable side-project"? "Startup" usually means a company that fulfills a few of the below: - something the founders do full-time - less than 3 years old - in a bootstrap phase or burning VC money - in search of a business model (not yet profitable) - has the potential to grow

The "bootstrap" part can include initial phases being funded by a day-job or consulting though. People don't always quit their jobs right at the beginning, but might if it starts taking off.

No problem with that, I just think "project" is a better term as long as it's an after 6PM affair. To me a "startup" implies additional commitment and risk due to the absence of a cushy day job.
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