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Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#201

Issues like this wouldn't exist if verification was required upfront. If you need to be at least 18 to use a particular service, and they're going to verify at some point , that point should be at the very start.

I wonder if it is clearly specified in the TOS that you may face a life ban...

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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post #19

I received a lifelong ban on using Google Ad products when I was 16 after experimenting with clicking my own ads (and asking my high school friends to click on them). I remember the account accumulated almost $80 before Google detected the suspicious activity and banned me. Given that this was 16 years ago, it would be nice to get second chance..

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> Personally I'm glad that people with a demonstrated history of fraud are excluded from the ad market

If only corporations were held to such a rule..

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If anything Google /made/ and extra $300 Not really, since they can cash it out when they're 18, and unclaimed but earned funds on an active but unverified AdSense account don't just disappear into the ether - so on Google's balance sheet, they don't have an extra $300.

I'm pretty sure that's the whole point of this issue though right? The account is burned forever because it's stuck in limbo. I think there would be less consternation/anger if the kid just had to wait till they were 18 but the way the support forum reads this account is forever "in limbo" and even turning 18 won't fix that. Surely Google writes off old "debts" after a period of time. Maybe not? I guess they will mak…

> but the way the support forum reads this account is forever "in limbo" and even turning 18 won't fix that.

I think this is poor writing from the 'Product Expect' person - the 13 year old already has an adsense account that is 'active' but 'unverified', but verification is still possible.

> If he tries to apply again when he is 18 he will be refused on the grounds of already having an account, even though he will have abandoned it, it's still there.

but he's not re-applying, just verifying the existing account. The parent here did not indicate that 'verification' is now unavailable, just that the parent can't input their own name into the verification form.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#204

I've been banned-for-life from a handful of services after I lied about my age as a kid. I can see both (all?) sides of this: - As a society we ought to be forgiving of harmless youthful indiscretions - As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you - There is a big can of worms when it comes to doing business with minors on the internet. I don't think there's a solution a…

> As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you Just to point the obvious, but corporations do not have any inherent right, and this specific one is already denied on some circumstances.

Corporations are people too

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The thing is, most parents wouldn't even think "Oh, you'll need to do that in my name." I certainly wouldn't think that, as it sounds like horrible idea. Your teenage child posts one picture of themselves in a compromising situation, and suddenly you're lost all access to your accounts for the rest of your life. I'll pass, thanks. And, yes, I get the "educate your children" thing.. but children do stupid things. He…

> Heck, an adult lost their gmail account forever because the sent a picture of their child to their doctor; one the doctor asked for. All the bad press didn't sort that out? That kind of thing shouldn't happen in the first place, but we can usually expect that once it hits headlines some PR drone swoops in to fix the issue.

Certainly not everyone that this type of thing happens to gets front page attention. I don't know that it ever got resolved but, even if it did, the "I was able to convince tends of thousands of people to talk about my issue until someone paid attention" is not a reasonable process to go through. Even in the best case, he lost access to his accounts for an unreasonable amount of time. If he used the same account for business, that could be financially disastrous.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#206

I've been banned-for-life from a handful of services after I lied about my age as a kid. I can see both (all?) sides of this: - As a society we ought to be forgiving of harmless youthful indiscretions - As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you - There is a big can of worms when it comes to doing business with minors on the internet. I don't think there's a solution a…

> As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you Just to point the obvious, but corporations do not have any inherent right, and this specific one is already denied on some circumstances.

In which circumstances are companies not allowed to ban people for fraud? Power and water utilities I guess?

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#207

What happens to these bans if I setup a LLC and use that for future Adsense business?

Should be no problem, except for the problem of setting up an LLC "just for that". I've no idea how it works in the states, but setting up a firm, in many countries I know, is no easy task, and comes with associated costs, both one-time and recurrent ones.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you Just to point the obvious, but corporations do not have any inherent right, and this specific one is already denied on some circumstances.

Corporations are people too

People who can’t be put in prison as a deterrent, who can be dissolved, sold, etc

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#209
post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

I'm in the opposite boat: I told paypal I was under 18 when I was under 18, called them, they kept my account locked, but as soon as I turned 18 I was unblocked and could used my original account. And I made the account when I was 11.

At what age did you call to report that you broke the TOS by certifying you were over 18?

PayPal really kept a dormant account with an underaged persons PII for 7 years? Interesting.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#210
post #188

> Your son's account is now in limbo - it can't be verified, closed or paid out. It can only be abandoned but it will still technically be active as AdSense think he is over 18 - he declared that to be the case. Of course it can't be verified now , but what would prevent the son from completing the verification in a few years when he is actually 18?

Presumably because the Date of Birth on the account is immutable, and the son's ID (even when he becomes 18) will never match it?
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