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Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#181

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you making the claim that since you didn't make a mistake at 16 that no other 16 yo can make mistakes? As well as the claim that any mistakes made at 16 means that the person will forever repeat those same mistakes for life?

He spent his teenage years reading terms and conditions, let not pretend he didn't make mistakes.

Best possible response. Thank you.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#182
post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

The old apocryphal tale comes to mind of the CD clubs.

-Everyone knew a person back in the day who signed up for the CD clubs promising dollar CD's, or 10 for a dollar. Whatever the various deals were. -With those deals came a commitment to buy 10 - 20 more albums at full price. -You sign a contract agreeing to this. -So the friend-of-a-friend signed it while under 18 and a minor. -They then tell the CD club that the agreement is null and void on account of them not being legally able to sign a contract, and after getting their 10 CD's for a dollar or whatever, to cancel their account.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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post #49
post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

The escape hatch is the parent opening the account in their own name. Companies don't have a choice here: Someone under 18 can not enter into a contract, there's nothing really they can do.

But things can be done without contracts. You can't hold a child accountable to pay a bill--but children certainly can buy things. You simply make things with children entirely prepay or time-of-transaction pay (you hand the clerk the $, you get the item.)

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#184

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the 13-year old had killed someone, they could be prosecuted as a minor and they would go to juvie and their record would be sealed after they turn 21 and they could get on with their life. But stealing a trivial amount of money from a corporation, well that's certainly deserving of an Internet Death Penalty.

> But stealing a trivial amount of money from a corporation It was only $300 and it was never paid out (since it needed more verification to pay out). If anything Google /made/ and extra $300 (they made more than that since the $300 is after their take). Also it wasn't "stolen" it was earned on a YT channel.

> If anything Google /made/ and extra $300

Not really, since they can cash it out when they're 18, and unclaimed but earned funds on an active but unverified AdSense account don't just disappear into the ether - so on Google's balance sheet, they don't have an extra $300.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#185

I don't think the title follows. Nobody in that exchange seems to have considered the possibility that the 13yo could just keep the account going for 5 years until they're able to verify it at age 18, or alternatively just create a new Google ID on their 18th birthday and use that. Seems like a nontroversy.

Did you actually read the accepted answer there? Neither of the options you mention are possible.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

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post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The thing is, most parents wouldn't even think "Oh, you'll need to do that in my name." I certainly wouldn't think that, as it sounds like horrible idea. Your teenage child posts one picture of themselves in a compromising situation, and suddenly you're lost all access to your accounts for the rest of your life. I'll pass, thanks. And, yes, I get the "educate your children" thing.. but children do stupid things. He…

Or let me put it this way: if I would be judged with that severity for all stupid things I did, I would be in guantanamo.

I suspect that there's enough of us that it would be more economical to relocate Australians and revert the continent to a penal colony.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#187

I've been banned-for-life from a handful of services after I lied about my age as a kid. I can see both (all?) sides of this: - As a society we ought to be forgiving of harmless youthful indiscretions - As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you - There is a big can of worms when it comes to doing business with minors on the internet. I don't think there's a solution a…

> As a business you shouldn't have to give second chances to people who blatantly defraud you

Just to point the obvious, but corporations do not have any inherent right, and this specific one is already denied on some circumstances.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#188
> Your son's account is now in limbo - it can't be verified, closed or paid out. It can only be abandoned but it will still technically be active as AdSense think he is over 18 - he declared that to be the case.

Of course it can't be verified now, but what would prevent the son from completing the verification in a few years when he is actually 18?

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#189

Even if Google were to change their policies to allow this youngster back on in five years, he'd be helpless to actually get Google to respond to a support request.

As far as I can tell the 13 year old isn't even locked out, they just can't verify the AdSense account (and the verification name must match the name on the account), so they will indeed be able to cash out in 5 years.

Re: Google Adsense/Admob blocks you for life if you use it before you're 18

#190
post #15

As someone who operated on the "adult internet" with payment processors and related infrastructure without being 18, I still carry forward the constant fear that I'll be banned for retroactive Terms of Service violations incurred when I was a kid. It really sucks when it's services like AdSense because you're just screwed forever. I really really wish the internet was more supportive of "early hackers" who want to ex…

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