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Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by dessant »

stale2002 wrote: post #520
dessant wrote: post #517

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No, I don't think any method of direct or indirect questioning is bad in this context, while you have a problem with both a roundabout and a direct critique of someone's employment choice, be it Meta or Amazon. You said it yourself that I should be direct in my critique so that I hopefully get deplatformed. Find a less harmful employer instead of projecting your insecurities into someone's question, and trying to sil…

> No Cool, so as I suspected, you support engaging in bad faith, and asking bad faith questions. Just say that from the very beginning if that is your opinion. Not sure why you would do this song and dance of denial, if this is just what you believe.

I'm not sure what you're understanding from my comments at this point, but I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question when it comes to questioning a Meta enginner's employment choice. I kept repeating the same thought over an over. You can be content with something in a specific case, and at the same time not engage in it. This also doesn't mean that someone will usually support a bad faith argument, or engage in it, as you seem to want to conclude.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by stale2002 »

dessant wrote: post #521
stale2002 wrote: post #520

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> No Cool, so as I suspected, you support engaging in bad faith, and asking bad faith questions. Just say that from the very beginning if that is your opinion. Not sure why you would do this song and dance of denial, if this is just what you believe.

I'm not sure what you're understanding from my comments at this point, but I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question when it comes to questioning a Meta enginner's employment choice. I kept repeating the same thought over an over. You can be content with something in a specific case , and at the same time not engage in it. This also doesn't mean that someone will usually support a bad faith a…

> I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question

Awesome! Got you to admit to it them! Now don't start crying when people accuse you of supporting asking questions in bad faith.

Just say "Yep, that is a totally valid thing to accuse me of supporting. I agree that you are correct in saying that I have no problem with asking questions in bad faith!".

You could have avoided all of this, if you just said that from the beginning.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by dessant »

stale2002 wrote: post #522
dessant wrote: post #521

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what you're understanding from my comments at this point, but I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question when it comes to questioning a Meta enginner's employment choice. I kept repeating the same thought over an over. You can be content with something in a specific case , and at the same time not engage in it. This also doesn't mean that someone will usually support a bad faith a…

> I said it early on that I see no problem with a bad faith question Awesome! Got you to admit to it them! Now don't start crying when people accuse you of supporting asking questions in bad faith. Just say "Yep, that is a totally valid thing to accuse me of supporting. I agree that you are correct in saying that I have no problem with asking questions in bad faith!". You could have avoided all of this, if you just s…

Good luck with that ridiculous generalization, and the partial quote that removes the context.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by sleton38234234 »

s1k3 wrote: post #280
Ozzie_osman wrote: post #53

Our startup spends a little bit on Facebook Ads (across FB, Instagram, etc). It's very clear over the past few months that there's trouble in the ads engine. Attribution is a mess, ad efficiency fluctuates randomly, the UI and API are flaky. I don't know whether this is a result of the ios privacy changes, the broader economy affecting ad spend, or internal issues... Maybe a mix. But it's clear that Meta's main reven…

Our CPIs have been absurd ever since the privacy changes. Meta is fucked and I don’t think people realize how much of an effect this is going to have on the entire internet. There are large downstream effects the iOS privacy changes are having on mobile advertising and the viability of companies that rely on mobile programmatic to bring people in the door.

Take a look at the top 20 advertisers, by total amount spent. You'll see, it's almost entirely large companies that don't calculate any kind of ROI and thus are extremely insensitive to CPIs. Companies like Pepsi and Nike don't and can't calculate ROI, they just want to spend a certain number of billion dollars on ads, even if it's just to prevent competitors from having those ad slots.

Now businesses, that do depend on a positive ROI on ad spend, in order to compete and survive: they are F*ked, sadly.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by tsimionescu »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #508
dougmwne wrote: post #498

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In my city we have medical students coming to study from all over Asia and Africa. They will become doctors, surgeons and other specialists. Many will use this as a stepping stone to stay in the EU. What you said is flat out false.

I know that, I know some of them myself, but I never said that no doctors from outside the EU ever immigrate here. What was your point? And how big is the % of medical professionals or medical students among all the total (legal and illegal) immigration into the EU? 0,000001%?

The more important stat is what the distirbution of immigrants vs natives working as doctors or nurses in the EU is compared to the distribution of migrants vs natives in the total population. I believe you will see that migrants are generally over-represented in Healthcare compared to their percentage of the total population, and similarly in certain other industries.

I have not been able to find very recent data, but here is a paper from 2007 [0], showing that the percentage of physicians working in the country at that time who were migrants either from inside or outside Europe was well over 5%, with significant outliers such as the UK (30%), Ireland (30%), Norway (15%). In Austria it was 5%, though most migrants were from other rich EU countries.

[0] https://bmchealthservres.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/...

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by whiplash451 »

mbrochh wrote: post #352
kernel-dump wrote: post #287

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I wonder what the effects of Meta failing would have on society? I can’t think of competing social network for people to migrate to. Would topic forums see a rise in popularity again or would sites like Reddit draw in some of those users.

Nothing. I'm pretty sure Meta could disappear from the face of the earth tomorrow and after a week of boredom, people would realise that life is actually much much better without it. (I've been off all Meta services since 3 years).

The millions of people using whatsapp for serious matters would beg to differ.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by whiplash451 »

gilbetron wrote: post #315
dubcee349 wrote: post #302

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But meta is very stock compensation heavy so you are betting on the company stock at least not dropping considerably like the people that joined in august of last year at a $350 per a share price.

On the other side, joining when the stock is low is great, since you get more RSUs and a stronger chance of them bouncing back up.

Right. And how low can it go?

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by tsimionescu »

ChuckNorris89 wrote: post #469
tsimionescu wrote: post #421

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That is patently false. Especially the Western and Northern EU countries have a massive influx of high-skill workers (doctors, programmers, engineers) from both Eastern EU countries (which will dry up sooner rather than later, to be fair, with terrible population growth already happening for more than a decade in places like Romania), but also from neighboring countries - Turkey being the largest source. Even the so…

>Especially the Western and Northern EU countries have a massive influx of high-skill workers (doctors, programmers, engineers) from both Eastern EU countries That's mostly false. I haven't met a single programmer from Romania in Austria or any dev from turkey who wishes to emigrate here. Non-EU skilled people I met all want to move to low tax high salary places like Switzerland, UK, Netherlands. Having an open borde…

You may not have met them, and Austria may not be very attractive for this type of immigration, but there are significant populations of them. Remember that BioNTech (who created the European Corona vaccine) was in fact founded and is operated by Turkish immigrants to Germany.

> Non-EU skilled people I met all want to move to low tax high salary places like Switzerland, UK, Netherlands.

The Netherlands at least is still part of the EU. You'll also find plenty of high-skilled migrants in Ireland as well, and France and Germany also attract quite a few.

Note that language concerns and attitudes towards foreigners, especially foreign workers, are a huge part of how many people come to work in a particular country. Ireland and the UK have a huge advantage here purely by virtue of speaking English, as does France for the populations in North Africa. The Netherlands are very open to using English in business, even though their own language is quite obscure. German is less internationally spoke than English or French, but it is not that obscure either.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by rightbyte »

lavp wrote: post #236
rightbyte wrote: post #219

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Zero is a special value you know, since zero times anything is zero. Edit: Except infinity ...

An infinite amount of nothing is still nothing.

According to my limited understanding it is NaN.

Re: Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by gwbas1c »

mvuksano wrote: post #289
eloff wrote: post #281

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China doesn't have another generation. They'll be going into a very stark population collapse that's worse than what Japan is experiencing now, where adult diapers outsell baby diapers. I expect that China's economy and influence will take the shape of an upside-down U, with the peak in the next decade. If they're going to move on Taiwan, they cannot wait forever. They came close to catching up the US, but I don't th…

Is there any other country that ever showed anything other then upside-down U in terms of economy strength and influence. To best of my knowledge every country, empire or society rises and eventually falls. Probably the best known example is Roman empire but every other society I can think of exhibits same pattern.

That's one of the core points of https://www.amazon.com/Changing-World-Order-Nations-Succeed-...
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