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NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

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Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

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Post by e40 »

dantheman wrote: post #42
busterarm wrote: post #15

I lived around the corner from Midtown North police precinct and the Midtown Community Court next to it. My whole block was no parking. There is no streetsweeping on the block. It's set up that way so that NYPD and court officials have somewhere to park their personal vehicles. This even though they have a whole gated garage that takes up 1/3 of the block. Instead, for the last (at least) 40 years, the parking scheme…

We should end free overnight parking, and make street parking only for a few hours. If you want to have a car put it in a garage or live in a building that has parking.

And for the units which don't have parking, what are you going to do, remove them from the market? Honestly, this is the wrong direction. How about we remove the corruption??

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Post by dropofwill »

MichaelCollins wrote: post #39
Temporary_31337 wrote: post #5

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If cyclists pick a war with the general public, I think they'll lose. They're already unpopular (this website notwithstanding.)

This is generally overstated in both directions. Every time there's an actual analysis of the american publics opinion on cycling, the majority is neutral.

Which is not to say smashing windows is a good move. Though I would also contest that drivers breaking the law to endanger cyclists also don't make up the 'general public'. If they were not a small minority I would never ride my bike outside.

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Post by stjohnswarts »

I wish my little community did this, Texans are particularly belligerent against bike lanes and bicyclists rights. As long as the program works I don't know why laws like this can't have a 1 year sunset clause. That way if it gets abused then it will auto expire. 1 years would be a nice amount of time to make sure it doesn't get abused by trolls.

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Post by [deleted] »

theptip wrote: post #41

This seems odd. If the situation is so bad, surely you can cover a salary for a traffic inspector to do the rounds? Even at one ticket per hour you should be able to pay the salaries of the inspectors needed to make a dent in the problem. Why do we need to vigilantize the populace? Just enforce the laws!

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Post by mancerayder »

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I would support this. Pedestrians should be able to wack cyclists on the sidewalk, and stab e-bikers, however. Certainly violence is the answer to enforcement issues, and not police.

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Post by pxmpxm »

Wowfunhappy wrote: post #48
pxmpxm wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Highly dense neighborhoods will invariably have cars, and especially delivery vehicles, double parking all over because density always implies shortage of space; bike lanes are in now way special in this context, unless you're suburban transplant with a newfound IMACYCLISTNOW identity.

> bike lanes are in now way special in this context If there will always be a shortage of space, we should encourage the activity that uses that space more efficiently. That means bikes over cars.

So your grand idea is to replace commercial delivery traffic in new york city with bicycles?

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Post by ch4s3 »

pxmpxm wrote: post #44
ch4s3 wrote: post #34

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This is a pretty dismissive take. The city could easily designate unloading zones in lieu of a parking space or town in the middle of most blocks. Don’t forget, bike lanes are also used for deliveries.

Vast majority of space, especially around the Manhattan and the dense part of Brooklyn and Bronx already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri, yet the dynamic I mentioned is common place. Again high density implies shortage of space - you want groceries and bike/car lanes, but only get to pick one of the two.

> already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri

I’m aware. That’s why people are advocating enforcing the law.

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Post by klyrs »

busterarm wrote: post #54
j0hnyl wrote: post #25

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100% - it does feel like a massive grift. Also, there are so many useless blocks in this city, especially outside of manhattan where there might be a dense population that has cars, but they're limited to parallel parking, when in fact there's plenty of room to have angled parking if you allow the cars to park halfway on the sidewalk. This is how it's done in many European cities, and even with their sidewalks that a…

European cities typically don't have the same level of crime as NYC's outer boroughs...historically. Angled parking presents a problem when people want to lie in wait to rob you. It's also difficult for street-level cameras to track people. Guaranteed NYC will never do this.

I must be missing something obvious... what about angled parking makes it especially friendly to robbers?

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Post by busterarm »

klyrs wrote: post #68
busterarm wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

European cities typically don't have the same level of crime as NYC's outer boroughs...historically. Angled parking presents a problem when people want to lie in wait to rob you. It's also difficult for street-level cameras to track people. Guaranteed NYC will never do this.

I must be missing something obvious... what about angled parking makes it especially friendly to robbers?

It's extremely easy to hide, invisibly, between cars with angled parking. Angled parking also shortens the gap between your front and back tires perpendicular to the street. Less light passing through means less opportunity to see shadows that shouldn't be there.

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Post by awb »

jondeval wrote: post #22

I find this proposal problematic. There is a world of difference between reporting on a violation in your community because you're a concerned citizen, and directly incentivizing citizens to report on each other. I'm sure you can find some small counter examples, but by and large the US has never had a history of augmenting law enforcement by way of private citizens. We are not a country of snitches.

What’s the difference between snitching and reporting a crime? The severity of the crime and your relationship to the offender?
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