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Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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I can only assume it will go higher. We need to push FEMA to have a 2 and done rule. After that the property must be returned back to dunes/parks/public spaces.

Yes, for sure. SC coast is getting hammered right now. Not as much wind at this point obviously, but timing could not have been worse… peak storm surge right at high tide.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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I can only assume it will go higher. We need to push FEMA to have a 2 and done rule. After that the property must be returned back to dunes/parks/public spaces.

Yes, 1000x this. It is frustrating to be sending piles of money to these states every year, which they then waste on political stunts like flying legal immigrants to other states, instead of taking care of their citizens, or maybe investing in climate hardening. And then they're completely unprepared for cold weather, hot weather, wet weather, dry weather, ... and say things like "Nobody knew ___ could be so complica…

> flying legal immigrants to other states

Can we please not do this flamewar thing? Asylum seekers are technically neither legal nor illegal immigrants yet, but everyone knows this will cause an argument that's completely unrelated to the article.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

#143
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If the irresponsible people who insist on living in hurricane prone areas pay for their own repairs, then I have no problem with them living there. If they ask for me to pay for it, then that gives me moral buy in into whether they should be allowed to live there.

I mean is it irresponsible to live in a hurricane prone area? For example I live in Puerto Rico. Do you want everyone to just leave?

You should decide to stay or leave based on whatever mix of factors are important to you.

That’s your decision, which is distinct from whether other Americans should subsidize the economic consequence of your decision.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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Legal immigrants? The feds flew or bused illegal border crossers who were processed and released to many states, including Florida. Yes it was a political stunt to move them again, but how is it worse than what the feds are doing?

No they were lawful asylum seekers.

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Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

#145
post #4

I can only assume it will go higher. We need to push FEMA to have a 2 and done rule. After that the property must be returned back to dunes/parks/public spaces.

I was looking to move to Fort Myers or Fort Myers Shores with my girlfriend (she’s originally from there), and we looked at five different houses. Based on damage maps/satellite photos/Facebook posts all five of those houses were flooded. But, the problem is only two of them were in any sort of flood zones. The only reason we didn’t buy is because it looked like the market was tanking. I think there is a lot of blami…

It was a Cat 5 in all but name. Max winds were measured at 155 MPH, Cat 5 starts at 157 MPH wind speed.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

#146

Florida is a sunk cost. Its time to turn it into the US's largest nature preserve.

Perhaps one of America’s first mega climate migrations. It’s not only sunk cost. Some of us here will live to see it literally sunk.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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post #142
post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, 1000x this. It is frustrating to be sending piles of money to these states every year, which they then waste on political stunts like flying legal immigrants to other states, instead of taking care of their citizens, or maybe investing in climate hardening. And then they're completely unprepared for cold weather, hot weather, wet weather, dry weather, ... and say things like "Nobody knew ___ could be so complica…

> flying legal immigrants to other states Can we please not do this flamewar thing? Asylum seekers are technically neither legal nor illegal immigrants yet, but everyone knows this will cause an argument that's completely unrelated to the article.

I think it's a valid conversation to have in parallel when the people/politicians in these places are pulling expensive political stunts that do nothing but stoke the ever-increasing polarization of our nation... only to turn around and shamelessly ask for aide in such a situation.

Sorry, but it's a bad look.

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

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I do not see how that could be just from all the old people receiving social security/Medicare benefits.

Yes and despite that they have below average per capita federal aid. Not only that, they had a record surplus in their state budget the last year. If someone were to try and attempt to portray Florida as some fiscally irresponsible welfare state, I would assert they would be quite misguided.

Interesting. I do not know how reliable this website is, but apparently, it incorporates Social security/Medicare spend also:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/federal-spe...

Re: Hurricane Ian damages in Southeast estimated at $100B to $120B

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Legal immigrants? The feds flew or bused illegal border crossers who were processed and released to many states, including Florida. Yes it was a political stunt to move them again, but how is it worse than what the feds are doing?

No they were lawful asylum seekers.

This kind of feels like doublespeak. Most migrants come for work, not to escape persecution. Economic migrants use asylum as a way to avoid being deported.
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