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Re: Yammer moving away from Scala

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Post by soc88 » Wed, Nov 30, 2011, 4:15 PM UTC

svenefftinge wrote: post #13

lucian1900 wrote: post #9

I've been looking for alternatives to Java for Android development. Since Python and Clojure aren't options (right now anyway), I looked at Scala among others. I found the syntax pretty terrible, worse than Java in several ways. In particular, too complex. I also found the object system overly complicated (and I find Haskell's ok).

Have a look at Xtend ( http://xtend-lang.org ). It's exactly what the yammer guy is looking for: convenience of Scala (closures, type inference, and more) without the complexity. And it compiles to Java source code, which makes it an ideal language for Android development.

Yet another language obsolete after Java 8. That's exactly what people need.

Re: Yammer moving away from Scala

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Post by gtani » Wed, Nov 30, 2011, 5:58 PM UTC

soc88 wrote: post #21

svenefftinge wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have a look at Xtend ( http://xtend-lang.org ). It's exactly what the yammer guy is looking for: convenience of Scala (closures, type inference, and more) without the complexity. And it compiles to Java source code, which makes it an ideal language for Android development.

Yet another language obsolete after Java 8. That's exactly what people need.

You never know.

It's like the Kentucky Derby. There's the big 4, scala, clojure, JRuby and groovy, all nice languages. Then there's the little 5: kotlin, ceylon, gosu, fantom, Xtend. Gosu and fantom are worth trying, I just haven't got around to it..

Re: Yammer moving away from Scala

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Post by eneveu » Wed, Nov 30, 2011, 9:32 PM UTC

Note that InfoQ covered the whole story (which is how I found out about this HN discussion): http://www.infoq.com/news/2011/11/yammer-scala

Re: Yammer moving away from Scala

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Post by lucian1900 » Fri, Dec 02, 2011, 1:20 PM UTC

svenefftinge wrote: post #13

lucian1900 wrote: post #9

I've been looking for alternatives to Java for Android development. Since Python and Clojure aren't options (right now anyway), I looked at Scala among others. I found the syntax pretty terrible, worse than Java in several ways. In particular, too complex. I also found the object system overly complicated (and I find Haskell's ok).

Have a look at Xtend ( http://xtend-lang.org ). It's exactly what the yammer guy is looking for: convenience of Scala (closures, type inference, and more) without the complexity. And it compiles to Java source code, which makes it an ideal language for Android development.

It looks interesting, actually. I may give it a try, along with haXe's Java backend (if/when it gets released).