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Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by smileybarry »

towaway15463 wrote: post #202
nvrspyx wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

RDR2 was released on Stadia on November 19, 2019, which was 1046 days ago. 5,907 hours over 1046 days is around 5.65hrs/day, 39.55hrs/week.

That’s essentially all of his free time after subtracting time for sleep, work, commute times and taking care of basic needs like eating and hygiene.

The reason he plays RDR2 on Stadia is to play anywhere, so part of that is commute time, some work breaks, etc. In one of the replies, he shows his setup of a phone controller (Razer Kishi), scattered TVs at school, and his laptop. Also streams, so I'm guessing some of that time is that.

I agree it's a lot of hours but for a game you really like (with an online component no less), it's possible once you consider that it's probably instead of watching TV, reading, and other free time stuff. (I.e.: treat it as cumulative free time instead of "this one game is 6k hours")

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by pas »

lawn wrote: post #217
pas wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But why would anyone... I mean at that point learning emacs might be actually worth it, no?

At this point I think it's more worth to learn Vim. (Sorry, I couldn't resist.)

Isn't that the default editor in the emacs system?

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by smileybarry »

missedthecue wrote: post #203
sirsinsalot wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you say the same about a 6k hour investment coding a game? This "if it isn't productive it isn't worthwhile" attitude is toxic.

Why is it toxic? Throwing all your time into frivolous activity like video games is what I would say is toxic. This individual has been averaging 40 hours a week on this game since it was released. In fact, building a valuable set of useful skills seems like the precise opposite of toxicity. Rather, it improves and adds value to your life.

Why is a fun activity toxic? Do you just avoid TV/movies too since they don't result in a valuable set of useful skills?

You don't have to be productive 24/7, you don't need a value justification for everything you do, and you don't need every expense (whether money or time) to result in a net positive cashflow or whatever.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by smileybarry »

neoromantique wrote: post #122
A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #115

I'll just chime in to say that logged hours don't always translate to hours spent playing. I'll often launch a video game, play for 20 minutes, and then alt-tab into my browser and get back to work, with the game paused in the background. At this point, Steam thinks that I've spent 500 hours playing a game, where the actual value is closer to 40. The same effect might be in play here.

I don't know about Stadia, but GeForce Now would kick you out after a minute or so.

Not really, I've had Control paused for ~20-30 minutes sometimes as I did something in another window. I think it was even on a free account (because I kept thinking about the 1-hour limit).

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by haswell »

mikkergp wrote: post #268
haswell wrote: post #249

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The length of time enduring these thoughts/feelings is not the point. The point is that of the ways one chooses to spend those hundred or so years, people often find later in life that they wish they'd spent the time differently. They realize that they could have achieved much greater life satisfaction if they had. I don't believe in a literal hell, but someone once posited (sorry, cannot recall who at the moment) th…

Yeah, I get the point, but I stand behind what I said. I probably just worded it the way I did because it's click-baity. :-) Thinking about your deathbed is really just another way of living in the future instead of the present. On your deathbed you have a completely different set of priorities and abilities, and there's no risk to the fantasy. Because you don't have to actually live it. I definitely don't disagree w…

I think we're mostly on the same page, but not sure why click-baity is a feature?

> Thinking about your deathbed is really just another way of living in the future instead of the present

If you spend all of your time thinking about your deathbed, sure. But I'd argue that being cognizant of this period of time and planning ahead is not the same as living in the future any more than spending your weekdays focused on getting work and chores done so you can enjoy the weekend unencumbered is living in the future (or eating healthy foods, not smoking, getting your exercise, etc).

As with everything, there's a balance to be struck.

And for what it's worth, I'm a gamer. I still actively spend time playing games because I enjoy it, and I get to interact with some of my friends.

But I think spending a few minutes reflecting on whether or not one's habits are serving them well, and how they will feel about those habits years down the road is also warranted.

> ...but that feeling of regret is such a small part of it

My point is that regret doesn't need to be part of it at all, and once you've reached that point, there's no going back. Someone may reflect on their time spent in , and realize it's a net positive in their life. Someone else may realize they need to make changes. The only time that such a reflection can have an impact on the outcome of one's life is when it's early enough to still matter.

The point isn't that people should stop playing games, or that they should live their life in the future, but that people should reflect on life choices early enough to make changes if changes are warranted.

Re: Red Dead Redemption 2 fan with 6k hours on Stadia begs for character transfer

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Post by lelandfe »

smileybarry wrote: post #281
towaway15463 wrote: post #202

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s essentially all of his free time after subtracting time for sleep, work, commute times and taking care of basic needs like eating and hygiene.

The reason he plays RDR2 on Stadia is to play anywhere , so part of that is commute time, some work breaks, etc. In one of the replies, he shows his setup of a phone controller (Razer Kishi), scattered TVs at school, and his laptop. Also streams, so I'm guessing some of that time is that. I agree it's a lot of hours but for a game you really like (with an online component no less), it's possible once you consider tha…

I get 8h of sleep each day and work 40h a week. I commute 30m each way: 5h a week. Basic daily routines (grooming, dressing, cooking, eating) are 2h a day. I try to do at least 30m of exercise a day.

49.5hrs remain in my week.

Reduce that by another 39.55h. I have fewer than 1h30m available a day now.

I have not done any errands, have no food for the coming week, my clothes are dirty, and I have not seen or called any of my friends or family.

Imagine living that lifestyle for 1,046 days in a row.

(Truth be told, I'm positive sacrifices were made. Cut the exercise, order delivery, eat while playing, don't shower, etc)

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Post by pb7 »

dtjb wrote: post #178
ramblerman wrote: post #66

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That’s 6.7h a day

I know people that read that much but we don't go around telling bookworms they're addicts. It's up to each person to decide where the line is for them, where a satisfying hobby becomes a destructive habit. If someone has no desire to form external relationships and they're completely content with their life, good for them for figuring things out. I'm not going to impose my arbitrary rules on them. I love RDR2 and pl…

>I know people that read that much but we don't go around telling bookworms they're addicts.

I don't think you really understand how much that is. That is every single day, rain or shine, healthy or sick. If you miss one day, you have to do it for 13.4 hours the next day. You absolutely do not know someone that reads that much, not for 3 years straight.

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Post by pb7 »

kimbernator wrote: post #193
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently) This community has a real tendency towards self-righteousness that is beginning to get on my nerves. You don't know anything about this person. Even if it's a truly unhealthy habit they have, that's none of our business.

It's out on a public forum, it doesn't have to be our business for us to comment on it. We also don't need to know anything about him in particular to know that's a crazy amount of time to spend. He doesn't magically have more than 24 hours a day.

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Post by PedroBatista »

kimbernator wrote: post #193
PedroBatista wrote: post #24

Although the angle of: Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently), this is yet another example on why you shouldn't depend on these platforms for anything of value, specially Google. The immense pressure to transform/re-frame everything as a service, aka: "You'll own nothing and be…

> Losing his characters is the best thing that's happening for him due to wasting a very significant part of his life in video games has some merit (but could be worded differently) This community has a real tendency towards self-righteousness that is beginning to get on my nerves. You don't know anything about this person. Even if it's a truly unhealthy habit they have, that's none of our business.

Let's be honest, you probably came here already with an axe to grind.

If you calmly read what I wrote, I mentioned the argument as a secondary observation since the main topic is Google and other "-as-a-Service" companies making victims when they change course.

>You don't know anything about this person. Even if it's a truly unhealthy habit they have, that's none of our business.

I don't know how you even expect to milk some virtue out of that statement, but I'll just say: Having awareness, observing and talking about things is everyone's business since it's a liberty we ( still ) have.

Any self-righteousness, victim blaming, etc. are things you added to my comment or misunderstood.

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Post by pb7 »

swyx wrote: post #246
maerF0x0 wrote: post #92

Earlier quoted context omitted.

8k hours on a job should be leading to portable artifacts that are difficult to take away: Something like 120K of income (probably closer to $200k), and a progression of skill development. Also could have intangibles like a feeling of contribution, socialization, purpose. Yes, exceptions exist. But many could make their job have these kinds of outcomes if they choose to do so

you can trust that this professional streamer also walked away with some good money and increase in follower count

>professional streamer also walked away with some good money

Most streamers make very little, including likely this person.

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