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OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by mvexel »

Grimburger wrote: post #63
pwg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…

As someone who belongs to the OSM community, I am sorry that you had this experience. Gatekeeping is an unfortunate byproduct of a crowdsourcing project, it seems.

I hope you reconsider and try again. Many of us are actually here to help.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by marssaxman »

pwg wrote: post #41
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

Thanks for the reference! I've just installed StreetComplete, and expect it should provide a good excuse to take some walks around the neighborhood.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by karussell »

spiekerooger wrote: post #79
karussell wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not possible with raster tiles, but the OSM database might still have the name in English. (You can have a look into vector tiles like from MapTiler or their open source project openmaptiles.org) I just found this example (has nothing to do with openmaptiles as far I can see): https://js.protomaps.com/examples/multi_language.html

It actually is possible with raster tiles as well - see e.g. the local chapter work in France ( https://www.openstreetmap.fr ) or Germany ( https://www.openstreetmap.de ) or the osMap project with 10 different language versions ( https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/osMap ). All those are produced with raster tiles. But you are right as this approach does not scale well in regard to using it for all languages out ther…

Yes, I meant switching languages is not possible. Of course you can pre-generate your raster in many languages...

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by petesergeant »

pwg wrote: post #41
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

Every time I see this I seriously consider buying a cheap Android device to play with it

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

HanClinto wrote: post #52

For everyone else who is waiting for the page to load, here is a screenshot of the data comparison: https://imgur.com/gallery/iQpmXO9

That's hardly the total of "the data comparison" - you can scroll it anywhere. I found my local area, halfway around the world.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by SideburnsOfDoom »

Grimburger wrote: post #63
pwg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

The last time I submitted a few months worth of my travels at once after doing a hundred or so of these challenges/questions and got a bunch of notifications lambasting me for not updating the moment I did instead of later. Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically. Was a really rude intro to the community and reminded me a lot of SO or Wikipedia with its gatekeeping.…

> Honestly didn't realise you had to manually submit, thought it just happened automatically.

in my experience, you don't have to manually submit in streetcomplete, and it does happen automatically.

> a few months worth of my travels

Was this travels in your local neighbourhood, going home daily, or one trip to another country or in a very rural area? I'm asking if you had constant data connectivity, intermittent, once daily, or none during that time?

It sucks to have a bad first experience from a Gatekeeping community. Of course, as newbs, we try to move slowly with small changes first to test the waters. That worked for me, sorry that it did not work for you. I also take the point that was raised about not editing based off months-old data.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by [deleted] »

petesergeant wrote: post #94
pwg wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Take a look at StreetComplete [1]. It is gamification of updates to OSM. [1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplet...

Every time I see this I seriously consider buying a cheap Android device to play with it

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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by nonethewiser »

benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

> I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - mental

Do they protect against self promotion somehow? seems like it would be an easy way to market something to a huge audience. I mean something like giving a completely legit review then dropping a link to your website or something.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by ibz »

everybodyknows wrote: post #87
alt227 wrote: post #46

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This is the main thing I hate about google maps. I refuse to do free work for google in return for 'fun'.

Try thinking of it as work done to help other real people. I found the "Emergency" door of a local hospital hard to find IRL, so I added a photo of it from the driveway POV. Another sort of real person you can help are the web-clueless owners of local small businesses.

I tried to look at it that way, but... it only helps other people until Google decides to drop that particular feature, after which all your work is gone forever.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by ibz »

Rygian wrote: post #64
benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

I do not oppose. But personally, I have a ton of fun just mapping for the sake of it. Seeing my contributions rendered is a satisfaction.

Same here. I think mapping is fun and it should be done by people who love doing it.

Doing it because you get a pair of socks or some smiley clippy character telling you something cute is very different.

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