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NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

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Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

#41
This seems odd. If the situation is so bad, surely you can cover a salary for a traffic inspector to do the rounds? Even at one ticket per hour you should be able to pay the salaries of the inspectors needed to make a dent in the problem.

Why do we need to vigilantize the populace? Just enforce the laws!

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#42

I lived around the corner from Midtown North police precinct and the Midtown Community Court next to it. My whole block was no parking. There is no streetsweeping on the block. It's set up that way so that NYPD and court officials have somewhere to park their personal vehicles. This even though they have a whole gated garage that takes up 1/3 of the block. Instead, for the last (at least) 40 years, the parking scheme…

We should end free overnight parking, and make street parking only for a few hours. If you want to have a car put it in a garage or live in a building that has parking.

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#43
post #41

This seems odd. If the situation is so bad, surely you can cover a salary for a traffic inspector to do the rounds? Even at one ticket per hour you should be able to pay the salaries of the inspectors needed to make a dent in the problem. Why do we need to vigilantize the populace? Just enforce the laws!

It's only odd if you don't consider the unstated goal which is to incrementally increase the number of things reportable for bounties until the result is a wage-free crowdsourced and privatized (side-stepping The Constitution) Secret Police Force.

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This is a pretty dismissive take. The city could easily designate unloading zones in lieu of a parking space or town in the middle of most blocks. Don’t forget, bike lanes are also used for deliveries.

Vast majority of space, especially around the Manhattan and the dense part of Brooklyn and Bronx already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri, yet the dynamic I mentioned is common place. Again high density implies shortage of space - you want groceries and bike/car lanes, but only get to pick one of the two.

Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

#45

I lived around the corner from Midtown North police precinct and the Midtown Community Court next to it. My whole block was no parking. There is no streetsweeping on the block. It's set up that way so that NYPD and court officials have somewhere to park their personal vehicles. This even though they have a whole gated garage that takes up 1/3 of the block. Instead, for the last (at least) 40 years, the parking scheme…

>Instead, for the last (at least) 40 years, the parking scheme has been a way for NYPD officers to get paid. They'd sell their placards to tenants in the buildings on my street, effectively providing guaranteed on-street parking to the wealthy residents of my street.

Calling this a grift is doing a disservice, IMO. This is straight up corruption. And it's rampant.

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#46

I find this proposal problematic. There is a world of difference between reporting on a violation in your community because you're a concerned citizen, and directly incentivizing citizens to report on each other. I'm sure you can find some small counter examples, but by and large the US has never had a history of augmenting law enforcement by way of private citizens. We are not a country of snitches.

If you ignore the law that was passed in Texas before Roe vs Wade was overturned giving private citizens the right to sue abortion providers.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/07/09/us/abortion-law-regulatio...

Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a pretty dismissive take. The city could easily designate unloading zones in lieu of a parking space or town in the middle of most blocks. Don’t forget, bike lanes are also used for deliveries.

Vast majority of space, especially around the Manhattan and the dense part of Brooklyn and Bronx already is commercial unloading only Mon-Fri, yet the dynamic I mentioned is common place. Again high density implies shortage of space - you want groceries and bike/car lanes, but only get to pick one of the two.

It is possible to get groceries without a car in New York.

You are really ignoring the huge opportunity cost of land that is widespread personal car use in NYC - people just tend to ignore how much land that really is because they are so used to it*. Delivery trucks wouldn't be a problem if there were a lot less cars, but cars are sarcosanct in America.

[*] The story of the original Sim City comes to mind. They originally were going to show parking lots, etc, but realized all this infrastructure actually made it look stupid and empty.

Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

#48
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This is a huge issue- it's rare that I find a stretch of two blocks in Manhattan or Brooklyn that doesn't have a car sitting in the bike lane. Double parking seems to be a way of life (remember the Seinfeld episode?). About half the time there's someone in the car which might make this complicated, but I love that someone is raising this.

Highly dense neighborhoods will invariably have cars, and especially delivery vehicles, double parking all over because density always implies shortage of space; bike lanes are in now way special in this context, unless you're suburban transplant with a newfound IMACYCLISTNOW identity.

> bike lanes are in now way special in this context

If there will always be a shortage of space, we should encourage the activity that uses that space more efficiently. That means bikes over cars.

Re: NYC Proposal Offers Cash for Spotting Parking Violations in Bike Lanes

#49

I find this proposal problematic. There is a world of difference between reporting on a violation in your community because you're a concerned citizen, and directly incentivizing citizens to report on each other. I'm sure you can find some small counter examples, but by and large the US has never had a history of augmenting law enforcement by way of private citizens. We are not a country of snitches.

Actually there is a long history of this in the USA, so much so that there is a term of art for it and a Wikipedia article.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Private_attorney_general

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