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Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by capableweb »

betamaxthetape wrote: post #12
laurent123456 wrote: post #9

It's down. What is it supposed to show?

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time…

Is there something like StreetComplete for iOS?

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by Semaphor »

betamaxthetape wrote: post #12
laurent123456 wrote: post #9

It's down. What is it supposed to show?

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time…

I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago.

I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by mvexel »

hashtag-til wrote: post #4

I wonder how to go about to collaborate to the OSM ecosystem with code. Does anyone know what are the cool projects within OSM in C/C++? (i.e. not web stuff)

Not necessarily cool perhaps but a critical piece of OSM infrastructure is osm2pgsql[1].

Also important tools in OSM land are osmium[2] and imposm[3] but the latter I think is Go not C++.

[1] https://osm2pgsql.org/ [2] https://osmcode.org/osmium-tool/ [3] https://imposm.org/

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by smcn »

This is blowing my mind, I had no idea it was as good as it was. I always remembering it being slow, empty, and just not really usable.

This is incredible work and I'm sorry that I held such a negative opinion of it for so long!

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

#36

Post by Varyag »

Semaphor wrote: post #32
betamaxthetape wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time…

I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago. I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.

Cool. you're being the change you wish to see in the world :)

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

#37

Post by benbristow »

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it.

Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - mental). The location history feature suggests things to contribute which helps too.

Would be good to have something similar to make contributing fun.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by mvexel »

Some background from the guy who maintains this site at https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Zverik/diary/399925.

There is a script (disclaimer, that I wrote) to set up a couple of docker images so you can create / host something like this yourself: https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/399939. It requires downloading of a "full history" OSM data file for the region of interest.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

#39

Post by pwg »

Semaphor wrote: post #32
betamaxthetape wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is a side-by-side comparison of OSM data from 2012 (left) and the current OSM data. In my local area the difference is massive: the 2012 data has some roads but that's about it, no buildings, house numbers, etc. That's all present on the 2022 version (disclaimer: partly because I spent several months walking around mapping things with the StreetComplete app [1]). For me it isn't down, just taking a very long time…

I can’t open it, but here it’s the opposite :( OSM used to be amazing, better than google, now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago. I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.

> now it’s horribly outdated. It shows several stores in my street that have closed over 6 years ago

OSM is mostly volunteers, and if no one has happened by on your street in the last 6 years, then no one has noticed to update the map.

> I actually found StreetComplete a few days ago and have started fixing issues, at least for my neighborhood.

This is the expected outcome, locals fixing local issues. Given a sufficient amount of that, and you have a better map than googles offering. Of course, as you discovered, if no one is around to make the fixes, the data also goes stale.

Re: OpenStreepMap 2012 vs. 2022

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Post by mvexel »

benbristow wrote: post #37

OSM needs some form of gamification adding to it. Google Maps app is great, lets you gain points by adding information & photos & reviews etc. They even send you a free bespoke pair of socks or a badge if you're active enough. So fun to add photos and then see how many views they get (I posted one of a chippy in Scotland (for Americans that's Fish & Chip 'Thick French Fries' shop) which got over 1.4 million views - m…

I maintain a website called MapRoulette which is not pure gamification but breaks down map contributions into small tasks. It has some elements of gamification (badges, leaderboard).

For more task-based editing with gamification elements check out StreetComplete, an Android app.

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