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Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by Siira »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #93

Just curious, is there some sort of special license or permission required to get access to computing resources like these in Iran, like there is with the Chinese website license number thing? I have thought about trying to run a VPN server on my EC2 web server for my friends in Iran but not sure if regular VPN protocols are even allowed through. I don't think they know what Tor is much less how to set it up with a c…

> Is this a narrative they are pushing on state media there?

I don't believe so. In general, assholes who get their money from the government, create their own fake news which is even faker than what is published in the state media. Which makes sense, as the state media optimizes for everyone watching it, not just the bootlickers.

> regular VPN protocols

Naive, Hysteria, Trojan, VLESS, etc. seem to work. Of course, foreign servers are, at times like this, only accessible in datacenters, which means the protocol would be irrelevant.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by ex3ndr »

LinuxBender wrote: post #5

the servers inside Iranian data centers still have access to the outside world. Knowing that, the simplest and easiest solution that would avoid detection is to SSH tunnel into that datacenter and SSH-ProxyForward out of that datacenter into Amazon AWS via SSH and use that SSH proxy chain as a SOCKS proxy for browsers. Make sure the browser is using the SOCKS proxy (SSH) for its DNS. Many sites will make your friends…

Telegram have MTProxy that acts as a proxy and censor resistant.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by SpectralW »

SpectralW wrote: post #140

Yes, V2Ray VMess and ShadowSocks are the most reliable tools. They were fully tried and tested in China, where has a similiar issue. Deploy a proxy server is the first step. Take the experiences from China: 1. Always try to pretend to be a normal traffic. Your ISP, DC, all the entities alongside your network, they will all try to detect you and ban/jail you. In China, they detect the symbol of unnormal traffic, recor…

Although almost every developers in China grasp the skill, every year thousands of people detented or jailed for providing the service or crossing the Great Fire Wall in China. Wish you good luck Iranian bro.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by ArnoVW »

thret wrote: post #130
LinuxBender wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s a dangerous game. That it is. When their society has reached a tipping point where women are burning their hijabs in the street in front of massive groups and cameras I think they have decided to not hide in the shadows and are willing to sacrifice themselves for what they believe in. Many of them are likely to have unspeakable things done to them. I suspect they know the sacrifices they are making and willing t…

How insane is it that women are risking death by burning a hijab, and as you say 'willing to sacrifice themselves for what they believe in'. LISTER: Do you mean they had a war over whether the doughnut diner hats were red or blue? HOLLY: Yeah. Most of them were killed fighting about that. It's daft really, innit? LISTER: You're not kidding. They were supposed to be green.

They are risking death for not challenging the status quo.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by exikyut »

bo1024 wrote: post #56

Can people use a steganography app to communicate via innocuous images? 1. Take a picture. 2. Use app to insert message into picture, encrypt with passphrase. 3. SMS picture to friend or upload to Iranian equivalent of imgur (if any is up). 4. Friend loads picture into app and types passphrase to get message. I'm not sure what a good choice of app would be, but something good must exist?

I find MMS heavily compresses images to an absolutely unusable extent.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by miracle2k »

morpheuskafka wrote: post #93

Just curious, is there some sort of special license or permission required to get access to computing resources like these in Iran, like there is with the Chinese website license number thing? I have thought about trying to run a VPN server on my EC2 web server for my friends in Iran but not sure if regular VPN protocols are even allowed through. I don't think they know what Tor is much less how to set it up with a c…

> They claimed to believe that it was blocked because of US sanctions and denied that the government blocked any websites.

This narrative is probably helped by the fact that half the internet is being blocked on the US side because of sanctions - i.e. the entirety of Google Cloud.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by kilroy123 »

anthk wrote: post #2

Briar works over Bluetooth, Wifi: https://briarproject.org/how-it-works/ https://briarproject.org/download-briar/

Yeah I think this is the way. Trying to setup VMs and proxies to get outside internet working is a lost cause IMHO. They need apps that work with a mesh networks and keep things local using wifi and bluetooth. This is the way.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by nurettin »

aliqot wrote: post #46
elihu wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because an opinion by itself doesn't add much to the discussion, if we don't know why that opinion is held. As far as I understand it and as stated the post text up top, the protesters are protesting because a woman died in the custody of the Iranian morality police. That seems like a pretty good reason to protest. If there's more to the story and the protests are actually about something different, then it would be…

>Because an opinion by itself doesn't add much to the discussion This is a misunderstanding in how downvotes work here.

We don't talk about down votes on hn "because it is boring" to dang. And because there is an incentive to downvote something which is downvoted. Lighter color indicates downvoted content. It shows reputation. As reputation precedes, people will downvote lighter colored text until someone asks why below it. In which case they will reconsider.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by robbiep »

giantrobot wrote: post #87
m3kw9 wrote: post #75

What happened to starlink?

Terminals have to get in-country and there needs to be usable ground stations in the same cell as the terminal. Good luck getting a terminal to Tehran where the police are apparently gleefully destroying satellite dishes. Even if you got an intact terminal there's no ground station nearby. StarLink has been given special dispensation to operate in Iran. This is not the same as air dropping a warehouse worth of termin…

The ground stations absolutely don’t need to be in the same cell. Have you seen the cells? They’re about 50km hexagons. There are 4 ground stations in australia

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Post by deepserket »

pSYoniK wrote: post #131
eknoes wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I set up several proxies, and only sent their addresses per mail. A Problem is that we have no idea which contact is trustful and which not, so in the end our proxies were blocked after a really short amount of time. Does anyone has successfully deployed such a proxy and it has actually been used without being blocked? Is there any best practice / experience? I am furthermore searching for a method to check whether i…

I think this needs to be approached with a throwaway mentality. You setup a proxy, it gets blocked, you setup a new one. I do agree that we cannot know who is reporting them or who is leaking the proxy addresses and ideally it would be great if a few people from within Iran could coordinate these and hand them out to other trusted people and have those share them out to friends/family/etc. However, I think we shouldn…

this is the same problem that folks at TOR encountered in some countries, Iran included

https://youtu.be/ZB8ODpw_om8

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