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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#941

I actually got Cyberpunk 2077 specifically on Stadia so I could play the meta-game of "Can I win Cyberpunk before the unaccountable mega-corpo revokes my access to Cyberpunk?" I will be losing that game.

Never tried Stadio, but do you have access to the game files? Can you make a backup of your savegame?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#944
post #768

Everybody is talking about how terrible Google and their culture is, so I'll just put it out there that this is great news for gamers. Cloud-based gaming services are a terrible deal for gamers. Gamers shouldn't cede so much control to some 3rd party who will be watching over their shoulder and collecting every scrap of data on them and their friends while they play. We don't need our performance in games being used…

I think you miss a really important use-case for stadia and cloud based gaming: infrequent players. Such players usually use consoles, which are no better than cloud based gaming for forcing updates to content. I jump into a match of apex legends every 3-4 weeks, maybe I get an afternoon to play because my partner has decided to go out with her friends. What usually happens is that I launch my PlayStation and it spen…

yeah I would have loved an all you can eat stadya paid by hour played and was super hyped before the payment model became public.

then microsoft came out with the pc version of their game pass.

guess who's got my money.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #868
post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

In July they had the gall to make fun of the rumor that it was getting shut down: https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1553080498938941440 Google killing products left and right is bad enough, this amount of lying is just unbearable. Google's lack of object permanence is probably the reason people didn't sign up for Stadia in the first place.

Yup, didn't even bother with it because Google. It sounded right up my alley but.. turns out I wasn't wrong, lol.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#946
post #872

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That tweet was surely from the Stadia team, and teams generally do not plan on shutting down. I think we can assume that was 100% honest at the time, and the team was doing everything it could to keep going. And that upper management (VP/director/etc.) probably finally made the decision to shut it down just a couple of weeks ago or even less. So while ironic... it's highly unlikely Google was lying, as multiple peopl…

But the language they used wasn't ambiguous. They said they were committed to it. If they want to give themselves wiggle room to backtrack on decisions based on performance, they need to find a way of being enthusiastic without making it sound like they are going long on the tech and the platform.

"I'm committed" can imply "my boss isn't".

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#947
post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

I think starting this kind of service also requires decades of prior buy-in to the gaming market. Google went in with no game studios, no relationships with game studios, no special IP, and no exclusives. That's a recipe for failure even if they had a solid reputation. Their competitors were Microsoft, Nvidia, Sony...

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Everyone else: No way, it's a PITA to port to, and knowing Google, they're going to sunset it soon. I’ve seen a few developers (Ryan Gordon, IIRC?) saying that the Stadia SDK was actually great. It was basically just a bog standard Vulkan/Linux environment with much fewer unpleasant surprises than consoles.

The whole stack was great. Google engineers worked their asses off on it. Very smart people throughout. The management was awful though. In the 10 years I was at Google I never really had to face a "crunch" situation but there I was right before Christmas working til midnight on the very tiny bit of Stadia I had somehow been dragged into despite telling my manager I didn't want to be anywhere near it because it was r…

Do you think Google will unlock the Bluetooth for the controllers so we can still use them? Maybe a firmware update or open sourcing the drivers.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#949

I actually got Cyberpunk 2077 specifically on Stadia so I could play the meta-game of "Can I win Cyberpunk before the unaccountable mega-corpo revokes my access to Cyberpunk?" I will be losing that game.

Never tried Stadio, but do you have access to the game files? Can you make a backup of your savegame?

It might be possible with Google Takeout

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#950
post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

I'll bet they would've failed anyway then had to refund even more money. Extra cynical view: Maybe they were afraid of this from the beginning, and that's why they didn't tell anyone.
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