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2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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Warning: always get a second opinion/source. I planned a trip to north Georgia based off of this exact website three years ago and it ended up being about 3-4 weeks before the leaves turned. Worst website ever.

predictions aren’t always accurate

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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> If trees did not shed their leaves, their soft vegetation would certainly freeze during winter time, damaging and, no doubt, killing the tree. This is just plain wrong, and makes no sense. If the leaves froze and died during the winter, how is this different from the tree losing the leaves to begin with? Trees lose their leaves to stop the process of drawing water up from the roots through their trunks. If water we…

About 10 years ago, we had a freak snow storm in early October in the northeast us.

The trees that normally shed their leaves had not done so yet and huge numbers of them suffered serious breaks from the weight of the snow clinging to the leaves.

It was at that point that I realized the purpose of shedding leaves in the winter.

Prior to that I used to think, "Okay, so what if there is LESS sun in the winter time? Why bother shedding leaves when you can pick up some extra energy from winter sunlight? And you don't have to expend the energy rebuilding leaves in the spring.'

My suspicion is that the leaves fall primarily to avoid snow-induced catastrophic breaks and related damage.

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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Take a detour into Transylvania County and look for white squirrels.

There are white squirrels?

Yep! The area around Brevard, NC has a native population. They’re really neat to see. I’ve always wondered how they made it from an evolutionary standpoint. They definitely stand out!

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There are white squirrels?

There sure are! https://whitesquirrelinstitute.org/white-squirrel-research-i...

Oh, wow. We might have one in our neighborhood (in upstate SC). I always assumed it was an albino, but it doesn’t have pink eyes.

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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> If trees did not shed their leaves, their soft vegetation would certainly freeze during winter time, damaging and, no doubt, killing the tree. This is just plain wrong, and makes no sense. If the leaves froze and died during the winter, how is this different from the tree losing the leaves to begin with? Trees lose their leaves to stop the process of drawing water up from the roots through their trunks. If water we…

How do evergreens do it, then?

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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post #23

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There are white squirrels?

Yep! The area around Brevard, NC has a native population. They’re really neat to see. I’ve always wondered how they made it from an evolutionary standpoint. They definitely stand out!

Your sibling comment has a link with several theories: The color might be a fluke from a small founding population of squirrels that was just genetically more fit in unrelated ways. Or the biggest threat to squirrels might not be predators but automobiles and the white color increases their visibility especially contrasted against asphalt.

The most interesting theory is that predators like hawks simply don't recognize white animals as prey, which is pretty crazy in my opinion. The page shares an anecdote that sometimes visiting dogs would chase gray squirrels but not the white ones.

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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post #7

Warning: always get a second opinion/source. I planned a trip to north Georgia based off of this exact website three years ago and it ended up being about 3-4 weeks before the leaves turned. Worst website ever.

Agreed.

I'm in Michigan. This map seems to change all of Michigan to Peak at the same time, which absolutely does not happen.

It varies as you move south in the state, typically a couple weeks apart from way northern Michigan to down by Detroit. Heck, I've been in the Upper Peninsula at peak leaves and then they started falling, gone south a few days later to the northern Lower Peninsula and things were just starting to pop, then home down near Detroit almost everything was still green.

That's... just how it works in Michigan. But that's not what this map shows. And therefore I've no reason to believe it.

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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post #23

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There are white squirrels?

Yep! The area around Brevard, NC has a native population. They’re really neat to see. I’ve always wondered how they made it from an evolutionary standpoint. They definitely stand out!

Nice I am in South Florida so if I am ever up there I will have to check them out. So they are all legit albino squirrels?

Re: 2022 Fall Foliage Prediction Map

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There sure are! https://whitesquirrelinstitute.org/white-squirrel-research-i...

Oh, wow. We might have one in our neighborhood (in upstate SC). I always assumed it was an albino, but it doesn’t have pink eyes.

Hey Chris! Do you happen to own the sst package?
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