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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

This. I'm surprised how often people try to copy Google practices because Google can't be wrong. My bet is that Google is one of the worst places to learn anything, be it product, management or programming. You will only learn how to solve problems the Google way, and that is only applicable at Google. It's like learning to govern from Xi Jinping. Sure, there probably are some interesting experiences to observe. But…

Google is a fucked up place in many ways. But our software engineering practices and infrastructure are second to none.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Never understood why it wasn't 'Stadia powered by Google Cloud' and I never saw any Stadia marketing or cross promotion, nothing on YouTube, YouTube TV, Gmail, etc...

YouTubetv will literally show me tens of ad slots per day with no ads (just a moment of zen and a jingle) when they could have been pushing Stadia.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

In that sense Google is the Anti-Microsoft. Microsoft makes the scrappiest products but as long as they are not total failures MS is committed to them in a way that is borderline ridiculous. Google makes good products but seems to have the attention span of three year old toddler.

How is Stadia any different from something like Mixer which Microsoft shut down at a record pace since its release?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

This is what drives my hesitancy toward subscribing any Google paid product. The company is very short-term focused and fickle on measuring the success of a product. They have the cash to throw at new problems, but they lack the stamina for any of their products to weather-out a storm. Google itself has the reputational problem of being weak on product longterm visions; that makes it a non-starter for buying into the…

You've got to turn the lemons into lemonade. Take advantage of the fact that they are likely to close things.

I got to play Cyberpunk 2077 on Stadia when that was the best and most reliable way to play that game. Now I'm getting a full refund. I should have bought more games!

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

It's curious to me that there hasn't been an evolution in re-exit strategies. You want to get bought by Google, then sold by Google. Why don't we hear about something getting sold off by Google instead of just shut down? Is it just a given that if Google can't make it work, nobody can?

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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Can we just shut down all these grifter tech companies? They seriously all become grift overtime. There should be just a law in place that the moment your company forgoes functionality for ad revenue or other downright irritating means, your company immediately dissolves, and the CEO forfeits their shares.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Seems the Stadia engineers were only told this morning by Google. https://www.reddit.com/r/Stadia/comments/xrcea4/comment/iqe3...

I suppose this was the only way to avoid a leak, but I do wonder how far in advance Phil knew this was going to happen.

If he’s a clever guy he knew it halfway through the first interview.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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This is keeping me from looking seriously at Flutter tbh. Go is safe, it has a community and ecosystem outside of Google, Flutter doesn't seem to be there yet.

(Disclosure: I lead PM/UX for Flutter & Dart.) For sure, anything that I could say along the lines of "we're not shutting Flutter down" might be taken as having overtones of the Baghdad Bob meme. And indeed, why should you trust my word? The reason you should feel confident to use Flutter is because it's strongly in our business interest to invest in it. Over 600,000 apps in the Play Store alone are already written u…

Thanks, internal use and support Play store apps makes sense to keep it.
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