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Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Of course, you know of the Prime Directive, which tells us that we have no right to interfere with the natural evolution of alien worlds. Now I have sworn to uphold it, but nevertheless I have disregarded that directive on more than one occasion because I thought it was the right thing to do. Now, if you are holding on to some temporal equivalent of that directive, then isn't it possible that you have an occasion he…

The prime directive is not for peer civilization. Iran is not on a stone age (yet).

Allow me to introduce you to:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metaphor

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Just my opinion but I think that non-interventionism should be promoted here. Especially when it comes to political situations like this. It’s a dangerous game.

Unless you have a personal political opinion about it. I personally support Iran, I support the Iranian government (as an existing middle eastern democracy), and I support the Iranian people. I am against oppressive theocracies, and I support Iranian citizens doing what is necessary to loosen or free themselves from the hold of how they express their faith being dictated from above.

In my opinion, any methods to help Iranian people to help them shake this control that aren't covert Western attacks on Iran or Islam are a good thing. Helping the protestors to communicate with each other is one of the most neutral, anodyne things you can do. For me, legitimate government is created through discussions, plans, and agreements among the governed. Any disruption of that is despotism. Maybe, one day, Iranians will be helping us protest.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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Over at session we are getting a massive influx of users from Iran right now. We have not been blocked yet, session is an e2ee decentralised messenger. https://getsession.org/

Thank you for Session, i've been using it to reliably communicate with a friend in Iran

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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I would recommend trying to set up tailscale[0] in the servers instead of a VPN, its similar to the reply about SSH ProxyForwarding but it has a lot more tricks under the hood. Of course you need somewhere (aka an AWS server in eg. europe) to connect to. Also have a look at their blog post about NAT traversal for some potential inspiration: https://tailscale.com/blog/how-nat-traversal-works/ Good luck out there! I'll…

Tailscale is a VPN...

And it requires a control server with auth. Simply cutting off access to the control server would disable clients from connecting.

While there is headscale, configuring the tailscale clients is tricky and would not scale to hundreds or thousands of non technical people.

/!/ Also tailscale is a mesh network. It would only take one rouge client to revel all other clients. This is very very dangerous given the use case.

Re: Tell HN: The Internet situation inside Iran

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It seems risky to set this up on something you own when facing the adversary you face. Use good OPSEC. Don't do this on something than can be tied to you. Not on your servers, not from your workstations, not from your house, not from your workplace. That's 101 level operational security. It'd just take one user to be discovered using the VPN, followed by forensics and interrogation to unmask whoever sets this up. Then what happens?
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