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Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

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Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#51

Post by lossolo »

MacBook M1 Pro 32 GB RAM 1 TB from November 2021

  === START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===
  SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

  SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
  Critical Warning:                   0x00
  Temperature:                        28 Celsius
  Available Spare:                    100%
  Available Spare Threshold:          99%
  Percentage Used:                    0%
  Data Units Read:                    29 661 010 [15,1 TB]
  Data Units Written:                 25 608 898 [13,1 TB]
  Host Read Commands:                 658 892 494
  Host Write Commands:                516 682 526
  Controller Busy Time:               0
  Power Cycles:                       186
  Power On Hours:                     526
  Unsafe Shutdowns:                   14
  Media and Data Integrity Errors:    0
  Error Information Log Entries:      0

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#52

Post by smoldesu »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #49
alyandon wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsafe Shutdowns: 13 That's a bit worrisome. Has your mac been freezing/crashing?

I hold the record for "unsafe shutdowns." One reason, is that I am constantly using Xcode, which is a bug farm, and SourceSafe used to crash like crazy. Also, some of the apps I'm developing don't start off, perfect. I spend a lot of time crashing. The advent of the M1 seems to have ushered in a new threading system. The threads act weird, now (look at how long it takes to resolve your stack, on a breakpoint). I'm pr…

> And I stopped playing Borderlands 3, because it liked to crash hard.

In all fairness, it also does this on underpowered Windows/Linux hardware. It really is just a poorly made game, not Wine/Apple's fault here.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#53

Post by JCharante »

M1 MBP (2021) 16GB 512GB 3 months old, just web dev

=== START OF SMART DATA SECTION ===

SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)

Critical Warning: 0x00

Temperature: 28 Celsius

Available Spare: 100%

Available Spare Threshold: 99%

Percentage Used: 0%

Data Units Read: 13,728,991 [7.02 TB]

Data Units Written: 4,555,309 [2.33 TB]

Host Read Commands: 364,464,746

Host Write Commands: 94,259,168

Controller Busy Time: 0

Power Cycles: 239

Power On Hours: 111

Unsafe Shutdowns: 12

Media and Data Integrity Errors: 0

Error Information Log Entries: 0

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#54

Post by alyandon »

cool_hw wrote: post #46
alyandon wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsafe Shutdowns: 13 That's a bit worrisome. Has your mac been freezing/crashing?

I'm not sure but I wonder if it happens when you do the macos install / recovery mode where it does repeated reboots.

I only see that counter going up when a system hard freezes/crashes or the system loses power. I'm not sure macos recovery/install would cause that.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#55

Post by cool_hw »

youssefabdelm wrote: post #48

M1 Air 16GB 1 TB, probably like 𝟹̶ ̶𝚖̶𝚘̶𝚗̶𝚝̶𝚑̶𝚜̶ ̶𝚘̶𝚕̶𝚍̶ 5 months old === START OF SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02) Critical Warning: 0x00 Temperature: 38 Celsius Available Spare: 100% Available Spare Threshold: 99% Percentage Used: 15% Data Units Read: 864,095,867 [442 TB] Data Units Written: 856,395,960 [438 TB] Host R…

Wow. What kinda operations are you performing? It's at an indicated 15% of its life in 3 months! (I understand that it can go past 100%)

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#56

Post by alyandon »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #49
alyandon wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unsafe Shutdowns: 13 That's a bit worrisome. Has your mac been freezing/crashing?

I hold the record for "unsafe shutdowns." One reason, is that I am constantly using Xcode, which is a bug farm, and SourceSafe used to crash like crazy. Also, some of the apps I'm developing don't start off, perfect. I spend a lot of time crashing. The advent of the M1 seems to have ushered in a new threading system. The threads act weird, now (look at how long it takes to resolve your stack, on a breakpoint). I'm pr…

Yeah, that'd definitely do it. I'm really interested in knowing if people see that stat going up without crashing/power loss.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#57

Post by cool_hw »

lossolo wrote: post #51

MacBook M1 Pro 32 GB RAM 1 TB from November 2021 === START OF SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02) Critical Warning: 0x00 Temperature: 28 Celsius Available Spare: 100% Available Spare Threshold: 99% Percentage Used: 0% Data Units Read: 29 661 010 [15,1 TB] Data Units Written: 25 608 898 [13,1 TB] Host Read Commands: 658 892 494 Host W…

The two relatively lower posts I've seen here are both higher RAM, 32GB and 64GB. I wonder there's anything to read into this.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#58

Post by wil421 »

cool_hw wrote: post #55
youssefabdelm wrote: post #48

M1 Air 16GB 1 TB, probably like 𝟹̶ ̶𝚖̶𝚘̶𝚗̶𝚝̶𝚑̶𝚜̶ ̶𝚘̶𝚕̶𝚍̶ 5 months old === START OF SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02) Critical Warning: 0x00 Temperature: 38 Celsius Available Spare: 100% Available Spare Threshold: 99% Percentage Used: 15% Data Units Read: 864,095,867 [442 TB] Data Units Written: 856,395,960 [438 TB] Host R…

Wow. What kinda operations are you performing? It's at an indicated 15% of its life in 3 months! (I understand that it can go past 100%)

Bought my M1 right after launch and that’s crazy to do in 3 months. I’ll post my numbers when I get back. Mine is personal use only, no work.

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#59

Post by naniwaduni »

ChrisMarshallNY wrote: post #6

My M1Max 1TB: SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02) Critical Warning: 0x00 Temperature: 39 Celsius Available Spare: 100% Available Spare Threshold: 99% Percentage Used: 1% Data Units Read: 139,236,989 [71.2 TB] Data Units Written: 58,514,871 [29.9 TB] Host Read Commands: 6,104,303,185 Host Write Commands: 716,889,789 Controller Busy Time: 0 Power Cycles: 392 Power On Hours: 1,311 Unsafe Shutdowns: 121 Media and Da…

> Unsafe Shutdowns: 121

Holy shit, that's like once a day?

Re: Ask HN: Has the Apple Silicon excessive disk read/write issue been fixed?

#60

Post by LeoPanthera »

M1 Max Mac Studio

=== START OF SMART DATA SECTION === SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

    SMART/Health Information (NVMe Log 0x02)
    Critical Warning:                   0x00
    Temperature:                        27 Celsius
    Available Spare:                    100%
    Available Spare Threshold:          99%
    Percentage Used:                    0%
    Data Units Read:                    13,080,985 [6.69 TB]
    Data Units Written:                 14,773,075 [7.56 TB]
    Host Read Commands:                 235,532,909
    Host Write Commands:                232,742,604
    Controller Busy Time:               0
    Power Cycles:                       218
    Power On Hours:                     230
    Unsafe Shutdowns:                   11
    Media and Data Integrity Errors:    0
    Error Information Log Entries:      0
Is this a lot? I have no idea.
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