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Meta announces hiring freeze, warns employees of restructuring

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Post by moolcool »

filoleg wrote: post #114
moolcool wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I were you I would tell them to break off contact because Meta is actively causing irreparable damage to society as we know it.

Yeah, and the reply they would receive from their friend would be a polite request to touch grass. People in the real world use instagram and whatsapp all the time without any moral qualms. The main reason facebook as a product is on a decline is because it is simply not interesting to younger people anymore. And even then, FB still manages to occasionally produce features that capture a lot of the audience back. FB…

I don't think "touch grass" is an appropriate response to legitimate questions of professional ethics. Comments like this are why I think ethics courses should be mandatory for any CS or engineering degree.

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Post by rightbyte »

otikik wrote: post #181
petilon wrote: post #61

> “I had hoped the economy would have more clearly stabilized by now..” Zuckerberg said. Zuck is blaming the economy, but Meta's real problem is that Apple tightened iOS privacy. Meta had built a business on tracking people, and when iOS tightened privacy, Meta could not target ads as effectively as before.

And their feed is increasingly worse. We might be the product, but this product can walk away.

That was an interesting twist to the barn methaphor actually.

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Post by MattGaiser »

pyler wrote: post #171
MattGaiser wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I spoke to a Meta recruiter a few months ago who offered to send me helpful algo resources for the interview.

Willing to share them?

They ghosted me, but it was in the initial call.

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Post by cloverich »

nobleach wrote: post #21
brentmitchell25 wrote: post #11

They should only keep the engineers that remember how to solve leetcode hard problems /s

Have you ever interviewed with Facebook/Meta? They don't do leetcode problems. Say what you want about them as a company, but I've done quite a few interviews in my career and their process was one of my favorites.

Huh, I had an interview at Meta a few months back (which I backed out of) and the (very nice) interviewing prep instructions they provide very clearly stated you should be able to do leet code style questions, preferably two mediums, in an hour. Their interview process felt very organized and prepared overall, although I backed out before actually interviewing with folks.

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Post by laweijfmvo »

petilon wrote: post #61

> “I had hoped the economy would have more clearly stabilized by now..” Zuckerberg said. Zuck is blaming the economy, but Meta's real problem is that Apple tightened iOS privacy. Meta had built a business on tracking people, and when iOS tightened privacy, Meta could not target ads as effectively as before.

What he meant was "I had hoped _our_stock_price_ would have more clearly stabilized by now..."

They over-hired low[er] quality employees (by his own admission) when the stock exploded in 2020. Now they'll do anything to avoid official layoffs to save face.

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Post by bjornsing »

rightbyte wrote: post #219
itsoktocry wrote: post #218

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>*The economy is stabilizing.* The economy is never "stable". It is constantly in a cycle of ups and downs, over-investment and under-investment, easy money and tight money... The current state is no more "normal" than any other period.

Zero is a special value you know, since zero times anything is zero. Edit: Except infinity ...

In the limit 0*x tends to zero as x tends to infinity.

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Post by magic_hamster »

no_wizard wrote: post #217
lotsofpulp wrote: post #215

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Meta/Microsoft/Amazon all did not want to plow the billions of dollars and years it takes to develop hardware that can compete with iPhone and Android. They bet that they did not need to, but unfortunately for Meta, looks like they should have.

Not even compete with Android, just build a better Android phone, and sell it near cost (or at cost). Would have given them troves of data I'm sure. The muscle is around contract negotiation with the carriers and co-opting those partnerships, but they had the money to burn on this.

Who in their right mind would buy a Facebook phone, considering the neverending security issues, data leaks and total disregard for user privacy?

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Post by laweijfmvo »

loeg wrote: post #191
drfuzzy89 wrote: post #136

Is it known whether this sort of hiring freeze affects all levels? I have a friend who's in-progress for a staff role at Meta and I had heard in the past that staff was often "immune to hiring freezes."

"Active interview loops will continue," but also "we will not make any offers until the freeze is lifted." So, go figure. Edit: IC7+ is explicitly not frozen. > The only roles that will remain open are SWE IC7+, Data Center roles, and 2023 Intern, Pathway and AI STE class hiring

Imagine being of IC7+ caliber and voluntarily deciding to jump on this sinking ship. I doubt such a person exists. Might be an opportunity to upsell yourself into an IC7[+] offer, though.

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Post by SantalBlush »

dc-programmer wrote: post #85
petilon wrote: post #61

> “I had hoped the economy would have more clearly stabilized by now..” Zuckerberg said. Zuck is blaming the economy, but Meta's real problem is that Apple tightened iOS privacy. Meta had built a business on tracking people, and when iOS tightened privacy, Meta could not target ads as effectively as before.

Stages of grief. First he blamed employees, now the economy..

CEOs are collectively hammering these talking points about the economy, pretending that it's 2008 all over again. They want their workers scared.

The thing is, this isn't 2008, not by a long shot. They can keep complaining, but the jobs numbers speak for themselves.

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Post by iepathos »

hdjjhhvvhga wrote: post #200
subsubzero wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I interviewed with them 12 years ago, it was a long time ago but I remember all the interviewers felt like they had come from a funeral, everyone was absolutely miserable. I knew right then and there I could never work at a company with such negativity, also they wanted me to skip my honeymoon to start with them which I was not about to do so overall a terrible company and experience. And after I started learning abo…

> also they wanted me to skip my honeymoon to start with them They must be really strange folks. I can't imagine 1) a company who would propose such a thing to a (potential) employee, 2) a person who would agree to that. Seriously, WTF.

Ask them for a million dollar bonus to do so and a contract saying they'll pay any losses due to divorce later on :P /s
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