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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by timcavel »

ren_engineer wrote: post #411
vyrotek wrote: post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by closetnerd »

I've long thought big companies and individuals have WAY more money than they know how to effectively use.

This is really hurting American innovation edge. If we could figure out a more effective way to get that money towards entrepreneurs / start ups - we'd be way better off.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by robotnikman »

solardev wrote: post #659
endtime wrote: post #418

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mostly agree with you, but I downvoted your comment because > We devoted an entire month of resources to this project and thought that was enough! ...is not just wildly inaccurate, but also disrespectful to the people who spent years working on it.

Sorry, but as a player, I honestly can't tell where that effort went... feels like they abandoned it as soon as it launched. Even at the time of its death, crossplay, cross save etc. didn't work except for a tiny handful of games. The Stadia Plus Chrome extension made a bunch of improvements on their own. There was never a desktop app. No ultra wide support. No RTX. Never got vsync working right. In the years it was…

GeForce now also had the major advantage of being able to play games your already bought on Steam

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by algoatecorn »

closetnerd wrote: post #762

I've long thought big companies and individuals have WAY more money than they know how to effectively use. This is really hurting American innovation edge. If we could figure out a more effective way to get that money towards entrepreneurs / start ups - we'd be way better off.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/277501/venture-capital-a...

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by jjtheblunt »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #688
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

People have this idea that Google hasn't ever done anything successful beside search. Google experiments constantly and shuts down bad experiments. Experiments that probably aren't going anywhere for a long time: 1. Gmail 2. Maps (acquisition, but did not have a web interface and was not remotely popular prior) 3. Android (literally bought before the first launched devices) 4. Play Store 5. Cloud 6. Google Pay / Wall…

Weren't Gmail, Maps (Keyhole), Android all acquisitions?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by dqpb »

Google: "Would you like to waste the best years of your life?"

Engineer: "No..."

Google: "What if I pay you slightly above average and give you free food?"

Engineer: "Deal!"

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lupire »

ren_engineer wrote: post #411
vyrotek wrote: post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

I doubt the Stadia leadership killed their own division. The problem was someone higher up.

Harrison is still the lead of Stadia.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by dijit »

autoexec wrote: post #693

Everybody is talking about how terrible Google and their culture is, so I'll just put it out there that this is great news for gamers. Cloud-based gaming services are a terrible deal for gamers. Gamers shouldn't cede so much control to some 3rd party who will be watching over their shoulder and collecting every scrap of data on them and their friends while they play. We don't need our performance in games being used…

I think you miss a really important use-case for stadia and cloud based gaming: infrequent players.

Such players usually use consoles, which are no better than cloud based gaming for forcing updates to content.

I jump into a match of apex legends every 3-4 weeks, maybe I get an afternoon to play because my partner has decided to go out with her friends.

What usually happens is that I launch my PlayStation and it spends the whole evening applying updates.

It’s asinine, maddeningly frustrating.

if I could pick up a controller and play: I’d be much happier.

FD: I worked on a game that came to stadia and knew about it before it’s public launch.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by lupire »

danielmarkbruce wrote: post #560
ren_engineer wrote: post #411

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

I was at Google 2014-2018. It appeared that Larry & Sergey didn't understand incentives, despite otherwise being very smart guys. They just didn't seem to get it. At all. There were lots of smart, motivated people but the incentive structure was completely set up to reward launching products and moving on. Some of the Stadia folks were insanely good at playing the promo game. There was talk about the need to "land" r…

2014 was when they retired.
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