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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by wbear »

mooman219 wrote: post #723

There's a lot of animosity on this thread, but I think Stadia shutting down is distressing and we should talk about that. The concept of a 3rd party game streaming platform is another foot into the grave with Stadia shutting down, and that should be cause for alarm. I think most people in this thread can agree that the licensing model for Stadia was less than stellar, but it feels like getting favorable licensing req…

I do not want cloud gaming startups to succeed. I feel like I would own my games even less than I do now, and due to the laws of physics, games would be less responsive than playing locally. I am glad that Stadia has failed.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by zerocrates »

coldpie wrote: post #151
scarmig wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a bit of a conundrum: every company is going to shut down products. What's the best way to launch new, risky things? Startups can simply go all in on the product, and if it fails, the company dissolves, though people rightly are hesitant to go with a fly by night startup for exactly that reason. I'm not even sure that Google has shut down more products than an equivalently sized company. But it's certainly shut…

Microsoft, Nvidia, and Sony have all launched game streaming products without this kind of coverage. It's a Google problem.

Though do any of those do the Stadia model of having you "buy" the game specific to them to be able to stream it?

Other systems I'm aware of mostly piggyback on some other platform so your "ownership" extends to local usage also (like how Nvidia's system works with your Steam library), or are just Netflix-esque subscriptions that give you access to the available library as long as you're subscribed (like PlayStation Now, well, whatever it's now called under Plus, and Game Pass streaming).

Neither of those models has the same type of concern over losing your purchases. Google's track record is obviously a factor too, but the business model is as well.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by haunter »

bargle0 wrote: post #734

Can you get your game saves out of stadia and in to a portable format? I have to imagine this is going to wreck a lot of people who like to play games with persistent state over the long term.

Yes Google Takeout actually downloads every data including your save files

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by gilrain »

dweekly wrote: post #300

You know, the day Stadia launched, someone very cynically set up http://stadiacountdown.com/ and it won't end up very far off from the truth. sigh Honestly, I'm glad Google was willing to take a bet this big - they had a lot of serious infrastructure innovations to make this work that may end up paying off in other ways, and a company that's not willing to make big bets has a 0% chance of having a new bet land...

Google making big bets: I’m all in! Actually, no, I fold.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by camel_Snake »

datalopers wrote: post #596
minimaxir wrote: post #8

The real question here is why it took so long to shut down Stadia, especially from Google. It never had any traction at any point in its history.

Nobody at Google ever thought to put together the venn diagram of: * People interested in playing high end games * People who don’t own modern consoles or gaming PCs * People with access to fiber

Nah. Google execs and others keeping making the mistake that cloud gaming should target the high-end gamers. It should be the middle-ground between mobile gaming and pc/console gaming, IMO. Low barrier to entry with some AAA games.

Stadia users often joked about how it was really 'Dadia', since so much of the player base was younger dads that wanted to game with their friends from time to time but couldn't justify purchasing the required hardware. These are the users Google should have been targeting - along with less tech-inclined crowd.

The entire pandemic I had this vision of a Stadia commercial where a younger family member sends a link on the family group chat or over zoom and then next minute everyone is playing Among Us or some other casual party game together. Even grandparents and click a link to open their chrome browser.

You don't need fiber for casual games like these. You need enough internet to stream netflix - which almost everyone does.

Stadia leadership just didn't have vision.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by mooman219 »

wbear wrote: post #731
mooman219 wrote: post #723

There's a lot of animosity on this thread, but I think Stadia shutting down is distressing and we should talk about that. The concept of a 3rd party game streaming platform is another foot into the grave with Stadia shutting down, and that should be cause for alarm. I think most people in this thread can agree that the licensing model for Stadia was less than stellar, but it feels like getting favorable licensing req…

I do not want cloud gaming startups to succeed. I feel like I would own my games even less than I do now, and due to the laws of physics, games would be less responsive than playing locally. I am glad that Stadia has failed.

I believe the issue is cloud gaming is succeeding for a triopoly of companies, and only them. You can not want them to succeed, but that's further entrenching their dominance. If you're fine with narrowing who can license games to just a couple of companies, then I'm afraid that's there's a very real risk of no longer owning your games at all. This is a bit of a slippery slope, but that's just my concern.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Post by nope96 »

well, I have this shrink wrapped Stadia box I got from the Cyberpunk deal I procrastinated on, and never opened. Is it worthless or does the controller work on other platforms? I think it also came with a gen 2 Chromecast, but I think that's pretty obsolete now too?
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