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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

That's a promise you can only keep if almost no one buys anything, though. :-)

"we'll make sure you have a way to play your games even if stadia shuts down" would have also been acceptable and would have guaranteed much more good will.

But they failed to adequately engage devs or their customers' desires in the first place, so such an arrangement would have been a comparatively impossible licensing and product goal for them.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Super sincere question. > Google's reputation for not supporting things long term I didn't know Google had such a reputation. I mostly use drive and gmail, so it was fine to me. Does google really have such a reputation? Any place I can read more on this?

Very sincerely, you must read just about zero tech news. Google has been infamous for this ever since they shut down Google Reader in 2013. For about the past 10 years they are a company adrift that can no longer launch new products without getting absolutely ridiculed. Everyday consumers have lost their faith in the company because they are so used to getting jerked around anything G. People I know wont touch a G chat app because they know it wont last 6 months.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

That's why you should always take corporate promises with a tablespoon of salt.

After seeing so many big companies promise things and only screw those over along the course of last couple of decades, this is of no surprise to me

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #80
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While inevitable, I am impressed they are refunding all purchases, including hardware. That can't be cheap.

I think it begins to address mistrust of new Google products. Which is worth a lot to Google. If they consistently take this approach for other cancellations, it could change the the common view from: "why use this? They're just going to shut it down in a few years anyway" to: "oh neat, Google's experimenting with something new. Let me try it out. If it doesn't work out, they'll take care of me."

I'm a Stadia user, and Google's handling of the shutdown of Google Play Music is what gave me confidence to purchase anything on Stadia (~$500 on a quick review). I actually thought we'd be sent personal links of our games, which would live-on in Google's white-list stadia product called Google Stream - they did something similar for GPM which merged into Youtube Music. I'm fine with a refund though.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #608

Unfortunately this doesn't surprise me. We worked on a Stadia title before launch. We were constantly reminded by Google how big the YouTube integration would be, which unique killer features we absolutely had to integrate with, and more. And non of that ever materialized after launch. If Google can't even convince their own internal teams to cooperate, how do they expect studios and consumers to care the slightest f…

From the consumer perspective, this reminds me of the new chromecast that was released without Stadia support, even though the previous chromecast supported it. Get that! A streaming stick that couldn’t stream the company’s own paid service. Preposterous!

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Everybody is talking about how terrible Google and their culture is, so I'll just put it out there that this is great news for gamers. Cloud-based gaming services are a terrible deal for gamers. Gamers shouldn't cede so much control to some 3rd party who will be watching over their shoulder and collecting every scrap of data on them and their friends while they play. We don't need our performance in games being used…

Well, you conveniently ignore the reality of lots of people who cannot afford or just don't want to buy a gaming computer or console there. Streaming services are an actual, viable option for them. Even though Google has done its best to show why it might not be just so viable after all...

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #17

You know it's gonna be bad news when you see a title like that. I've always been bearish on game streaming because it's just not practically, physically possible to solve the problem of input lag. Even an extra 10ms is going to be noticeable and unacceptable for many games.

I disagree, because for 99% of gamers not trying to play competitive games, it’s virtually unnoticeable. I like to play Spiritfarer and some other family games with my partner on Stadia, and we’ve never noticed any significant problems - even when using non-stadia controllers. Overall I’m bullish on cloud gaming, because I don’t want to invest hundreds of dollars regularly to update my PC or console hardware just to…

If there is demand, and the tech is fine, then why is Google shutting down Stadia?
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