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How is doing your job description “quiet quitting”? I thought it meant doing nothing at all or much less than what is expected. This feels like propaganda.
On a side note, with all the fantastical language used in job descriptions these days I sort of doubt anyone knows what the actual metrics/standard or bare minimum is. I know I don't.
Quiet quitting is a thing because of quiet firing. Corporations have long since abondened the concept of rewarding ground employees for anything, the only way to get substantial raises is frequent job hopping already
This guy gets it. I have been passed over and screwed over for years. I worked above my level for 2 years without a promotion and a meager bonus. When they finally started talking about a "promotion" it would be a 13% increase in hours for a 7% raise, and higher expectations. They also wouldn't follow their own policies, to my detriment.
Basic psychology says I was conditioned to do the minimum because I get treated and paid basically the same whether I work hard in do the minimum. You reap what you sow, Mr CEO...
How is doing your job description “quiet quitting”? I thought it meant doing nothing at all or much less than what is expected. This feels like propaganda.
I though the definition was "doing the bare minimum", which could be your job description or less if they let you. On a side note, with all the fantastical language used in job descriptions these days I sort of doubt anyone knows what the actual metrics/standard or bare minimum is. I know I don't.
Though it's been years since I've been in the market, many (most?) job postings had "and other duties as required" at the bottom for this very reason.
Isn't fast tracking to a layoff the entire point of quiet quitting..?
What is real is people doing their exact role, as prescribed, and nothing more. Contracted 40 hours on salary? That's what you get. It's the natural response to companies exerting almost total control of your life. You may not feel this way, but people on PagerDuty, analysts, etc all do. If you aren't paid commensurate to your life sacrifices you're not quiet quitting you're fixing the agreement to be fair. As evidenced by "quiet quitters" being fired you are implicitly expected to work longer and harder than your contract hours and pay. The board room appreciates your sacrifice, they will send you a pizza party once the budget for it is approved.
>quiet quitting—that is, doing only what’s in their job descriptions and no more. Yeah, Why would I choose to do additional labor for my employer for free? Is paying the agreed $5 for a $5 item instead of paying $6 'quiet stealing'?
How do we call paying only the expected salary and no more? Quiet contract breaching?
How is doing your job description “quiet quitting”? I thought it meant doing nothing at all or much less than what is expected. This feels like propaganda.
Plus a lot of people just died which at least somewhat shifts the balance of power towards workers. This whole quiet quitting propaganda campaign, as well as I think the related "return to office" one, is intended as a threat: "The expectations are the same, the conditions will not change, and you will accept it."
What a tone deaf statement. Conveniently Jay McDonald defines "better or harder-working talent" as people who are willing to perform additional labor for free.
I am by no means an "Eat the rich" kind of person...but I sure do understand why that sentiment is getting more popular when "executive coaches who sit on the board of several companies" have the balls to make a statement like this, especially now, given the current economic issues we're facing.
If I am B2B I am not giving a customer 'more service' than what is being asked.
If I am a consultant I am delivering _exactly_ what is spec'ed by who's hiring.
If I go to a lawyer or an accountant and ask them to 'go the extra mile' they will ask me to go contact another professional.
The asymetry of employer/employee dynamics _specially_ in american and asian cultures is really quite impressive.
> Managers at all levels should form lists of employees to let go if better or harder-working talent becomes available, says Jay McDonald, an executive coach who sits on the board of several Atlanta-area companies. What a tone deaf statement. Conveniently Jay McDonald defines "better or harder-working talent" as people who are willing to perform additional labor for free. I am by no means an "Eat the rich" kind of pe…
It's gnarly to see the stark contrast in lives being lived between wealthy/normal people.
If you make 100k you are still a nobody to these people. What weird times we're living in..
Quiet quitting is a thing because of quiet firing. Corporations have long since abondened the concept of rewarding ground employees for anything, the only way to get substantial raises is frequent job hopping already
Boom. This guy gets it. I have been passed over and screwed over for years. I worked above my level for 2 years without a promotion and a meager bonus. When they finally started talking about a "promotion" it would be a 13% increase in hours for a 7% raise, and higher expectations. They also wouldn't follow their own policies, to my detriment. Basic psychology says I was conditioned to do the minimum because I get tr…