this is especially bad news given the growth in games streaming. nVidia, Amazon, sony, microsoft and even Logitech are all growing streaming products. It was Google's game to lose.
Google is shutting down Stadia
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#592While inevitable, I am impressed they are refunding all purchases, including hardware. That can't be cheap.
I'm really curious the calculation here. That's a lot of money, and I'm certainly glad they're doing it, but feels both out of character for Google, and I'm surprised they have the budget allocated to just "doing the right thing". What goodwill is this saving that they aren't burning by shutting down Stadia?
People were extremely cautious about stadia from day 1 because while Google may be the single most capable company of actually making cloud gaming workable, this specific product required a lot of money input that had a fairly good chance of being completely wiped out based on Google's track record.
With this, next time there's a product that has a similar risk to the consumer, people will be saying "yeah it might get shut down, but look at what they did with stadia"
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#595I used Shadow [1] for a couple years. They basically give you a windows VM and you install whatever you want. All the other big players limited the games you could install, which was a deal breaker for me. I think there's 1 or 2 others that have a similar model to Shadow, but they are pay by the hour. Shadow was great, when they had a California datacenter (~20ms latency). I noticed zero lag most of the time. Once th…
Latency is the aspect of cloud gaming I'll never understand. There are literal physics based limits on how fast you can transmit a signal (and a lot more practical ones on top of those). I keep thinking that someone must have some secret sauce they've come up with, but unless Google or someone can invent faster light, I'm not sure what that would be. Obviously the closer you can get the compute to the screen, the better, but 20ms still sounds perceptible to me.
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#596The real question here is why it took so long to shut down Stadia, especially from Google. It never had any traction at any point in its history.
Nobody at Google ever thought to put together the venn diagram of:
* People interested in playing high end games
* People who don’t own modern consoles or gaming PCs
* People with access to fiber
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#597Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656
Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…
> Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products.
The thing with x amount of products failing is true. Doesn't matter if you're an indie hacker or Google. It's been shown by giant after giant releasing products and them failing. Doesn't matter what industry they're in either. That's why so many corporations just buy new products lines. They get a product that is in demand.
That's why it made sense for Adobe to buy Figma. Building a competitor would have been probably rather expensive and risky. Where instead they just buy it and have the product and the market share.
why Amazon has been buying products like Ring and the robot hover. They're in demand and Amazon just needs to put some cash behind it and it's going to generate tons more cash.
If you're wanting to build the next big thing, you've got to try building lots of things until one catches off.
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#598Earlier quoted context omitted.
Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…
The thing that baffles me is that this has been a known issue for a long time, and yet there doesn't seem to be any significant moves to improve this. Can someone please explain what Sundar Pichai's big goals as a CEO are? That's a genuine question. He doesn't seem to be solving existing issues related to culture and incentives. And the company hasn't landed any big wins recently. I mostly see increased monetization…
imo, your eye is on the wrong ball. Google died when it's founders moved their attention to Alphabet. Google has moved from a bespoke kitchen to the catering kitchen that keeps the lights on for Alphabet while they build a strategy.
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#600Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656
Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…
It's as if they drove a clown car into a gold mine and fell in.
(said about twitter, but fits here)