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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

"and let you export your saved games"

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #74

When I rejoined Google (working in the hardware division), my managers tried to get me to work on stadia and I refused (this was shortly before it launched). I looked at it, said "this won't be successful, and google will eventually get rid of it". My managers simply couldn't understand that. They said "the leadership thinks this will be successful and we should build it" and then I realized they were sheeple.

How could you know? It only became apparent it would fail after it launched. The technology is great and not the reason it was doomed.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

I remember every single article when they first announced contained at least a few sentences wondering when Google would shut Stadia down. Because it was a Google project, Stadia was doomed from the start.

It was always strange that Google would decide to dabble in the brutally expensive and competitive games market, of all things.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #452

Sorry for the stupid internet drama/shenanigans, but I couldn't resist. > Anonymous sources providing nothing but a statement are baseless. > Stadia will exist by the end of the summer. You don’t have to believe me. Like I said feel free to come back to this thread in October. Source: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32278402 It ain't even October yet.

Well, autumn started on the 23rd.

So it technically did exist by the end of summer.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #248

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean, it was probably a lie. But, also, things may have changed. It's not like Google didn't just go through a big hiring freeze and budget process.

Everybody here knew it wasn't going to play out that way, so surely everybody in Google knew it too. Or should have known. Either they were lying, or were effectively brainwashed by the corporate environment (a real possibility.)

It is a really low-stakes prediction, for us to guess that Google is going to cancel a product. Internally I bet they had people making good-faith arguments in both directions.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

A lifecycle policy is a truly underrated component of a good services and software business, and I wish more people both understood that, and more companies had them.

When I buy pretty much any Microsoft product, I can go on their lifecycle policy page and see a date, often five to ten years out, when they commit to continue supporting/securing the product through. If I get more than that, great, but there's a commitment Microsoft is held to up front.

Google cannot make that commitment because Google cannot commit to anything. But it's a large enough company it could afford to do it and eat the cost when it was a bad call. The reason they won't is because Google doesn't view customers as people or partners they need to value.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Though I'm not suggesting lying/malice on The Google's part here, it's incredible that anyone still believes a word of corporate PR. Whenever a company insists it's not going to do something, I assume they're doing damage control and that the opposite is more likely to be true (much like Bettridge's Law). If a company makes a positive statement in PR, I assume their statements won't live up to their promise or, even worse, come with a deal breaking caveat.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

Funny story. Two years ago they gave away "Stadia Premiere Edition" kits for free, which was a Chromecast Ultra and a Stadia controller which I believe retailed for USD 100. I wasn't particularly interested, but I figured it would be worth a try.

But when I got the hardware I tried signing up and realized that apparently I had signed up for the Stadia free trial 6 months earlier. I vaguely remember trying for literally a few minutes on my laptop. This means that the $100 of promotional hardware they sent me is completely useless for its intended purpose.

It's genuinely sad that some manager or team went to all the trouble of getting the budget for this hardware promotion, but couldn't or didn't reset the free trial for the Google accounts of the recipients. But it might be a clear sign of the general level of competence with which the entire Stadia project was executed.

On the bright side, the Chromecast is still quite useful, although I'm not personally using it and haven't found someone to give mine to. Last I checked there wasn't any way to use the Stadia controller for anything, but I wouldn't be surprised if people could figure out how to "jailbreak" it and make it useful.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Super sincere question. > Google's reputation for not supporting things long term I didn't know Google had such a reputation. I mostly use drive and gmail, so it was fine to me. Does google really have such a reputation? Any place I can read more on this?

https://killedbygoogle.com/ I miss Google Reader and Google Wave the most.

I really miss Google Play Music. For my needs, it was the perfect streaming service.

Youtube Music is a huge step back. Spotify is far too playlist and recommendation happy, I want to listen to albums not curated lists. Tidal is decent, but similar to Spotify. Apple Music is the one I haven't tried for more than a couple of days and I don't recall what I didn't like about it.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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This is Google's modus operandi; if they can't dominate the particular market and gain monopol, they will simply shut it down. Why bother losing money or breaking even when you can go to some other niche and try to dominate it and monopolize the market.
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