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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Google lacks of focus. They should take a close look at what company they want to be in the next decade and more.

And yes, they should radically restructure their system of incentives. Clearly the one they have in place does not work.

They have been all over the places, from cloud, finance, gaming, mobile, os, social, you name it. And most of their revenue still come from ads.

Steve Jobs:

“People think focus means saying yes to the thing you've got to focus on. But that's not what it means at all. It means saying no to the hundred other good ideas that there are. You have to pick carefully. I'm actually as proud of the things we haven't done as the things I have done. Innovation is saying no to 1,000 things.”

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Google we're talking about. They shut everything down eventually.

Does anyone think we'll ever see the sunsetting of something huge like YouTube or GMail?

In 1997, I'm not sure anyone could imagine an Internet without GeoCities.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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I'm still convinced industry applications that have to run on powerful hardware (such as 3dsmax or AutoCAD) would have been a better target than games, especially when products like GamePass exist.

It's a really interesting idea and also a way for those publishers to help move to subscriptions, which they all do.

I have GFN and I love it, but I will say that input methods/devices is a real weak point. Right now there's still no credible story for racing wheels, for example. I'm not sure about flight simulator rigs, either (I think no). I wonder if you'd have to do a bunch of R&D to make all kinds of tablets and digitizers and other specialized input devices available; or if the workstation costs for consumers of those applications are already dominated by license fees and expensive input hardware? Making it less attractive?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term. Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governmen…

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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#465

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Google we're talking about. They shut everything down eventually.

Does anyone think we'll ever see the sunsetting of something huge like YouTube or GMail?

For GMail? yes.

For YouTube I think it would be something like it will slowly turn into CNGooGSNBC and be heavily editorialized where you need to work with an AI assisted nebulous entity for weeks before you can upload content.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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I am more entertained by this than I should be. Back when Stadia launched I was in a Reddit thread saying that the blatant double-dip business model of subscriptions + purchase stunk and that I had no faith in Google to not shut this storefront down shortly. I was immediately roasted by a flock of obvious astroturfers telling me that this was an absolutely serious move by Google to dominate the console games market a…

> The paid astroturfing felt very weird coming from Google. I don't doubt you at all, but how does one tell paid astroturfing from rabid fanboys?

It was a few years ago, but I remember it was distinctly obvious. Stadia was new. No one really knew much about it and it was not launched yet. Several users with same-ish usernames all starting giving long well written replies that kept repeating specific talking points that were not really part of the articles or marketing, things about the product strategy that sounded very much like a social media marketing brief. And they had a lot of very nice things to say about the boss. I used to work adjacent to social media marketing and it had the fingerprint. They were either several Stadia marketing employees on a coffee break or being specifically paid for the campaign.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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You know it's gonna be bad news when you see a title like that. I've always been bearish on game streaming because it's just not practically, physically possible to solve the problem of input lag. Even an extra 10ms is going to be noticeable and unacceptable for many games.

I tend to only play "non-competetive" solo games, so I dont care much about input lag. Wasnt a problem for me in Destiny, Assasins Creed or Cyberpunk.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #17

You know it's gonna be bad news when you see a title like that. I've always been bearish on game streaming because it's just not practically, physically possible to solve the problem of input lag. Even an extra 10ms is going to be noticeable and unacceptable for many games.

That's completely false. Streaming works great even for latency sensitive games.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#469

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is Google we're talking about. They shut everything down eventually.

Does anyone think we'll ever see the sunsetting of something huge like YouTube or GMail?

100%. Not sure which will go first but my guess is youtube will fold into another product. Gmail will start breaking and be sunsetted. It would not surprise me to see search sunsetted.
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