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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

Google needs to restructure their incentives before it wrecks the company. I have no doubt whoever launched Stadia got promoted and then bounced to a different product and didn't care about whether Stadia was a success long term.

Google's ad money printer masks the rot underneath, Google is literally a meme at this point for shutting down products. No serious business or developer is going to trust them. If governments get serious about ad regulation and damage their cash cow, Google is in trouble

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

BTW when Cyberpunk was released and didn't work, and PS Store / Steam / XBox gave refunds, Stadia was the only platform that refused refunds.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#414

Well, who won the pool?

Great question! Two people actually guessed correctly (not posting their names for privacy), but the average date across for all users (October 6, 2022) was surprisingly close to the date they announced it would be shutting down.

https://whenwillgooglekillstadia.com

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #360
post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Super sincere question. > Google's reputation for not supporting things long term I didn't know Google had such a reputation. I mostly use drive and gmail, so it was fine to me. Does google really have such a reputation? Any place I can read more on this?

Gmail and drive are pretty much the only safe havens. The rest… how many its own chat apps will google kill this year?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #25

At what point does working for Google (on anything released after 2008) go from being prestigious to embarrassing?

You're being downvoted, and I have no idea why. It is embarrassing. It's not just embarrassing, it's fucking embarrassing. Google Stadia could have been enormously successful. What killed it? The same thing killing all manner of innovation in this country - poor broadband Internet service. But... oh God, if only... if only Google had something they could use... something they could do to solve this problem!? Oh... wa…

Full disclosure: I work at AT&T but not directly on fiber. My views are my own and do not represent my employers.

Scaling fiber is hard and expensive. It’s a labor intensive process to get all the permits and get people to go and dig trenches and wire up homes. In sparsely populated areas you have the cost of laying lots of fiber and not ever having the hope of recovering your investment. In densely populated areas you need to relay cable and rewire apartments and homes. It’s a slow along and the USA is a really BIG place.

I’m not privy to the politics but Google has oodles of $$. They could lobby effectively if they were interested. Lobbying happens - and like anything else its a tool to use. Google would use it against competitors if they were able to. so ISPs use it. They could have bought 5g spectrum. They could have started something like Starlink instead they play around with balloons. They had the $$ to muscle into that. So, the only thing I can guess is that they aren’t / weren’t interested in the ISP business to begin with. The Fiber misadventure was just that - something they thought they could easily scale, tried it and got out when they understood the reality on the ground.

Also- I don’t think working for Google is embarrassing. They deprecate products quickly before they become a ball and chain on your bottom line. Working for Google remains as prestigious as ever.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Funny fact: one of the only times online I actually caught a company shill acting as a regular person posting - essentially, ads; and whose extensive comment history only included positive remarks about a product - was a Stadia shill/plant I found on Reddit about a month ago.

Their entire history comprised of posts and comments praising Stadia, but clearly typed by a real person; with like these weird intentional grammar and spelling mistakes to make the account look like it was a real person. Either that or the Google employee behind the account needed to go back to Grade 5 or 6.

Ironically - they’d posted the article one or two months ago where Google promised continued Stadia support, and I found it on the front page of Reddit News.

I didn’t think twice about the poster of the article; until enough people started joking that - yeah - give it a month or two and Google will close it down, kinda thing…

The OP got so defensive in a very strange way to the point where their comments started to be more than questionably ‘real’.

So, I did a quick background check on the account - only to find - holy shit; it’s true, this person is literally paid by Google to post only positive things about Stadia online. Had to be - just from looking at it - but most telling, and the dead giveaway was that once myself and several other Redditors pointed out that the account was obviously just a paid shill from Google, the entire account mysteriously disappeared about an hour later. :P

Companies: if you know your product has problems and/or is shit - here’s a thought - instead of paying people to shill mostly false positive information on social media - how about you invest in actually improving your product; or marketing it in legitimate ways that don’t make you look like a total scumbag. Just my advice.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Google's product strategy.. Google: We're going to launch a fancy new product in an already-crowded field, not market it at all, and everyone will jump on board and love it! Everyone else: No way, it's a PITA to port to, and knowing Google, they're going to sunset it soon. Google: No we won't, we're fully dedicated to this thing Everyone else: No way, they haven't added meaningful features in years and they're going…

I mostly agree with you, but I downvoted your comment because

> We devoted an entire month of resources to this project and thought that was enough!

...is not just wildly inaccurate, but also disrespectful to the people who spent years working on it.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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Anyone here use Stadia? Not much of a gamer but very interested in the tech of cloud gaming.

Not stadia, but I tried Steam In Home streaming (basically you stream from one PC in your house to another), with ethernet and it was NOTICEABLY laggier (because of input lag). It was probably like 33ms+ of added input lag. From that point I knew cloud streaming (which is basically this plus network latency) wasn't going to be pretty.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

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post #43

Just a couple of months ago. "Stadia is not shutting down. Rest assured we're always working on bringing more great games to the platform and Stadia Pro." https://twitter.com/GoogleStadia/status/1552989433590214656

https://twitter.com/BlueFireDemon44/status/15530629798847488...

>I mean we could wait till September 24 too

Not bad missed the estimate by 5 days.

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