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Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#291
Story time. I left Google in 2017 after Fiber (which I worked on) was unceremoniously mothballed. I mean it still exists bu tall expansion palns stopped and it went into maintenance mode.

Before leaving one of the teams some of us considered joining was the then unlaunched Stadia team. This was an effort out of Cloud I guess to create value added GCP services. Ultimately it never went anywhere because the team didn't want a presence in NYC.

Anyway, as soon as I heard about the project I said there's only two words you need to kill this project.

"Input lag"

The conversation should've ended there as the games where this isn't a factor are so niche it doesn't justify an entire product and engineering team.

I really don't understand how projects like this get signed off. Well, I do actually. It's a pet project for someone who doesn't really understand the domain they're operating in (ie games).

This should've never been greenlit.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#292
We will be refunding all Stadia hardware purchases made through the Google Store, and all game and add-on content purchases made through the Stadia store.

What are the odds of this being another lie?

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#293
post #229

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

That's a promise you can only keep if almost no one buys anything, though. :-)

Well, you can also keep the promise if there are lots of buyers and business goes well.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#294
post #40

Google's reputation for not supporting things long term is finally starting to affect them in noticeable ways. Developers didn't onboard because they were afraid it would get shut down. It got shut down because no one onboarded.

Ironically, I bet if that Stadia would've done much better if it had launched with the promise of "if we do shut it down, we'll refund all your purchases"

They are refunding purchases to users.

But developers aren't getting their time back.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#295
This is baffling. Stadia was launched with a lot of fanfare and it got a lot of attention too. This feels like Google giving up on something that everyone wants to succeed. In other words it would have been a great success if it's with anyone but google.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#296

Google's product strategy.. Google: We're going to launch a fancy new product in an already-crowded field, not market it at all, and everyone will jump on board and love it! Everyone else: No way, it's a PITA to port to, and knowing Google, they're going to sunset it soon. Google: No we won't, we're fully dedicated to this thing Everyone else: No way, they haven't added meaningful features in years and they're going…

>not market it at all I noticed that too. Google never adversises its producta. Google is almost like the startup founder who thinks their side project is so good it doesn't need marketing or sales.

They just know first hand that online advertising is not worth the money!

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#297
post #25

At what point does working for Google (on anything released after 2008) go from being prestigious to embarrassing?

Why are so many of you here so bitter against this company?

It’s not just Google, but the cause for embarrassment at other formerly prestigious places is different and not relevant.

I used to dream of working on the Windows experience, but I can’t imagine how awful those roles must be. And having to tell someone I had a hand in creating the Windows 11 UI cluster**. I think I’d rather say I work at Oracle.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#298

For those of you who haven't tried it, it is the real deal. I've tried Xbox live, playstation streaming, etc. and Stadia's performance blows every single one out of the water. Even on 4g, performance is unbelievable. You don't even need hardware or any account. You can play destiny for free. It saddens me that this is going away but like most people, I'm not surprised. I just hope that the technology doesn't go to wa…

Nvidia’s streaming is very technically competitive with Stadia. Most of the time it worked better. Business model rocks too, you own the game through your normal Steam or whatever account and rent the GPU time.

I have also used MS cloud gaming a bunch and it stinks in comparison.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#299
post #241

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So that was a lie

Googler, opinions are my own. I don't work on Stadia. From what I saw, the Stadia team was working hard on product improvements and adding new games still. So a careful parsing of the sentence is that the Stadia team was still working towards the goals of expanding the service, as the shutdown decision wasn't made yet or told to the team yet.

Unfortunately there's a reason teams and people get put on "Double Secret Probation". If consumers find out the team might get shut down they start relying on them less, at which point the probation becomes a self fulfilling prophecy.

It got out that one of my favorite restaurants was going to lose their lease for new construction, and didn't have plans to relocate. I moved shortly thereafter and never checked up on them. What actually happened is that the construction project got delayed over a year, and the restaurant stayed, but anyone who didn't live in the immediate vicinity didn't hear about that. Any time I told someone it was still open, the response was happy, but complete surprise.

They opened a kind of a cafe with just a fraction of their menu closer to my house, but the location wasn't great (It's worth paying someone to sit around a potential location for hours on multiple days to see what foot traffic is like. If you're across a high traffic street from a high foot traffic area that doesn't mean you'll see foot traffic) and I'm sure by then the rumor of their demise had affected revenue. So bad location and the food wasn't quite as good as at the old location. Probably staff turnover.

That slow avalanche took three years to shutter the company, and they probably would have been fine if they'd managed to stay out of the local paper.

Re: Google is shutting down Stadia

#300
You know, the day Stadia launched, someone very cynically set up http://stadiacountdown.com/ and it won't end up very far off from the truth. sigh

Honestly, I'm glad Google was willing to take a bet this big - they had a lot of serious infrastructure innovations to make this work that may end up paying off in other ways, and a company that's not willing to make big bets has a 0% chance of having a new bet land...

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