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Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#71

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

They also proactively chose in the wake of the 2003 invasion of Iraq to avoid importing more natural from the US. Schroeder and co wanted to reconnect Western Europe to Russia and avoid any dependence on the U.S. I think we now all see who the more reliable partner for Western Europe has been.

[edit] if you’re going to disagree, I’d be interested to hear your specific objections. The shift away from US natural gas is well documented.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#72

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

It's upsetting that so many here want to take a genuine (and very scary) international crisis and use it to flog their own personal peeves.

Needless to say, "German energy policy of the last two decades" and "Let's Invade Ukraine and Blackmail Europe!" are different decisions, and subject to different analysis. You can have reasonable opinions about both, but if your opposition to Russian adventurism and brinksmanship[1] is grounded only on your support for the German nuclear industry, I think you're not helping the discourse.

[1] It's looking increasingly likely that they blew up Nordstream, which is dangerously close to an act of war against other nuclear powers.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#73
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In Sweden we haven’t separated their power supply from anything else, so rolling blackouts will kill them as well. And the blackouts are probably coming sooner than a fix can be in place

Sweden is not on the same power network as most of the rest of Europe. It's a factor in the recent price spike - Swedish companies are selling surplus power to Europe at the prices these are prepared to pay.

"Surplus power" is not accurate. It's more accurate to say that the transfer cables are mostly at full load because the European demand is so large. In effect, this means European prices in Scandinavia.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#74

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

This place started to think in memes I feel. Every issue comes with the automated arguments, the same ones every time. If the topic is energy someone must write the "they shouldn't have closed those Nuclear power plants, silly environmentalist".

Anyway, France is full blown nuclear state and they are having energy issues too, because as it turns out nuclear power plants require long regular maintenance periods.

Maybe there's no simple answer for energy issues and countries don't simply build or close down power plants over single issue? Maybe it wasn't done just to please some tree huggers?

Maybe someone in Germany could have had crunched the numbers too and see the risks? Maybe some politicians were too close to fossil fuel money? Maybe it was considered as a way to keep the relationship with Russia profitable for Russia and encourage Russia to build good relationships with their primary customer? Maybe EU wanted to have Russia as a reliable petrostate as an alternative to the USA so they can do their thing without USA? Maybe they wanted to reduce their footing in Africa by not relying for them in Uranium production? Maybe it make more economical sense to use the non-nuclear solutions?

Just maybe it wasn't a single issue decision even if it didn't play out as hoped? Europe is acutely aware of its tight energy situation, that's why they have been regulating the efficiency since decades, it's not coincidence that in Europe everything is very energy efficient. They squeezed it to the point where faster water heaters and more powerful vacuums were presented as Brexit benefits.

Oh, I'm so fed up by this culture war.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They already are. The article is just sensationalist. And from all providers, they picked Deutsche Telekom, which is like the provider with the worst reputation in terms of reliability and service. Of course the german internet is in shambles if you ask DTAG... because theirs is.

> which is like the provider with the worst reputation in terms of reliability and service Every other provider would like a word with you. I don’t even think there’s a good one outside tiny ones.

Intentional superlative, DTAG is the worst, it doesn't say the others are good. It just says they are less bad.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#76
This headline is awful. There's nothing specific to "mobile networks" in this news at all. They're saying that there's a potential energy crisis and that it might impact phones.

...which is also just plain ridiculous! Phone service is a critical piece of infrastructure and in almost all markets subject to special treatment and provided with redundant power mechanisms.

Lots of things may break this winter. Phones won't be one of them.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#77

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

It’s worse than you think. Germany blocked or was against a large number of alternative pipelines and was preparing to actively block nuclear at an eu level.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#78
post #70

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

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Not trying to argue with you, just trying to understand as someone from a neighboring country — could you elaborate a bit more about what happened with the Conservative Party undermining the green energy effort? And how close would Germany realistically have been to being completely self-sufficient by now if that didn’t happen?

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#79
I'm a former field engineer for a US Cellular carrier.

I don't understand how a two hour outage is a panic event, both Cellular CO's and Cell Sites should have at least 3-4 hours of holdover time. Thats just the standard of design.

Like, what happens if I storm blows thru, knocks down the infrastructure, if you have heat related infrastructure failures, or some other just normal failure - power outages happen, for those sites in the states where long power outages are common they'll have a permanent generator on site.

Re: Europe braces for mobile network blackouts

#80

"Russia's decision to halt gas supplies via Europe's key supply route in the wake of the Ukraine conflict has increased the chances of power shortages." Europe's decision, Germany especially, to be reliant on Russia for energy when they could have not shut down nuclear plants and built more.

It’s worse than you think. Germany blocked or was against a large number of alternative pipelines and was preparing to actively block nuclear at an eu level.

Why would they do that, what’s their motivation?
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