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Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by nicoburns »

rienko wrote: post #13
cabirum wrote: post #10

Can I use it in a base of my kettle to boil water?

the cpu is certified by AMD to be running up to 105 celsius, but it thermal throttles automatically at 95 celsius, so out of the box probably not enough to boil water, but just barely :P. the fun fact, is that if you manually reduce the power limit to 65W the initial single thread results so virtually no loss in ST performance vs 170W, and it appears that the original AMD slides stating 75% more efficient cores at th…

Although if you just want to make hot drinks, then you probably don’t need 100c anyway, kettles just use that as an easy off switch.

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by ptomato »

rienko wrote: post #13
cabirum wrote: post #10

Can I use it in a base of my kettle to boil water?

the cpu is certified by AMD to be running up to 105 celsius, but it thermal throttles automatically at 95 celsius, so out of the box probably not enough to boil water, but just barely :P. the fun fact, is that if you manually reduce the power limit to 65W the initial single thread results so virtually no loss in ST performance vs 170W, and it appears that the original AMD slides stating 75% more efficient cores at th…

That's the consumer variants; the Threadrippers will almost certainly not be at a lower rated TDP than current gen's 280W. If they increased it by same percentage as they did for consumer, it'd be 450W, but that's unlikely; 350W might be in the cards, though.

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by api »

revanx_ wrote: post #24

Imho if cpu manufacturers figure out how to slap a large cache on the same die (something like amd 3D V-Cache but much more) we may actually see graphic cards become obsolete in favor of software rendering.

Specialized silicon will always beat general purpose silicon.

It is true that a chip like this probably could render pretty decent 3d in software though. I wonder if combining this with the GPU in a clever way could allow more people to experience real time raytracing?

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by bitL »

bluescarni wrote: post #20
bitL wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Inference or training? I think with full training you are out of luck with CPUs, the gap is much bigger. 64c TR could only get to roughly 1TFlops.

Eh? My 5950x (measured) flops are ~2 TFLOPS in single-precision, ~1TFLOPS in double precision (obviously, due to half the SIMD vector size). This is a desktop-class 16-core machine.

You might be a bit overoptimistic:

https://old.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/9uswbz/how_much_gflops...

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by api »

jakuboboza wrote: post #2

Anyone is using 64 cores besides Linus :) I'm much more excited for 7900x on 12 cores rather than 64 cores. But I understand the limited amount of people that needs this power on desktop can also be excited.

Some common dev work loads that benefit: huge builds (especially for C++ and Rust), running lots of VMs to run a copy of a cloud infrastructure locally, emulating foreign hardware for testing (qemu), large scale data analytics locally instead of paying some ridiculously expensive SaaS to do it.

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by ggerganov »

frognumber wrote: post #14

I recently ran some machine learning benchmarks on CPU versus GPU. The gap for a multicore CPU was much smaller than I expected. I, for one, am excited by a 64-core CPU in a way I wouldn't have been a year ago. Between Hugging Face, Stable Diffusion, and Whisper, I'm using ML workloads a lot more. Being able to do so: * with a standard instruction set * with open-source software * with my full system RAM * without ha…

Recently, I've been implementing my custom inference code in C for various models (GPT, Whisper) and am interested to see how it compares to various GPUs in terms of performance. So far, I've been running it only on my MacBook M1 as I don't have the necessary hardware.

Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by jackmott »

revanx_ wrote: post #24

Imho if cpu manufacturers figure out how to slap a large cache on the same die (something like amd 3D V-Cache but much more) we may actually see graphic cards become obsolete in favor of software rendering.

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Re: Threadripper 7000 Storm Peak CPU Surfaces with 64 Zen 4 Cores

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Post by supernovae »

lakomen wrote: post #23

I'm reminded of ... that ... Was it power cpu or risc? The one with the 1024 cpu cores. I did a search but can't find it. Essentially 1024 cores soc server, affordable. Compared to that 64 cores sounds rather unimpressive. IMHO.

Are you thinking the old sparc Niagara?
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