I spent $3k on a Samsung Smart TV and all I got were ads and unwanted content

Post by anothernewdude » Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 9:58 AM UTC

_gabe_ wrote: post #157

I think this whole thread is very indicative of why programmers shouldn't design a product. I've been reading through the article and comments trying to figure out what "ads" were being referenced and then I finally realized people must be talking about the ads for TV shows and movies... I think the average consumer would much rather have a TV that they simply connect to their wifi and then get Netflix, YT, Disney+,…

Post by jakub_g » Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 10:09 AM UTC

RajT88 wrote: post #88

Tenoke wrote: post #73

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A lot of things are sold cheaper than they would be otherwise (including at a loss) because they can make part of the money through ads/add-ons instead. It's customers who have shown they prefer those cheaper on the face of it options rather than those with much bigger up-front cost (which still exist but have been mostly left to business products since only there are enough of their customers fine with it).

Yep, this I think is implicit in the author's frustration. He didn't buy the cheapest possible TV, he bought something near the top of the range. Premium customers deserve premium treatment. I would wager the story is the same for the absolute most expensive TV's as well. What I haven't seen here in this thread yet is the usual suggestion of looking into "Digital Signage" displays, which in addition to being "dumb",…

Post by tenebrisalietum » Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 10:43 AM UTC

nwiswell wrote: post #132

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #102

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What makes me think this will never happen is that - Open Wi-Fi networks are a thing of the past. There hasn't been any around me in a residential area for a long time now. Businesses and workplace lobbies, more likely, though. - No one is going to just give Samsung free Internet except the hapless consumer by supplying Wi-Fi credentials. - Samsung might make a deal with providers, but it would have to have unique cr…

> No one is going to just give Samsung free Internet except the hapless consumer by supplying Wi-Fi credentials. I think it's implied that Samsung would pay Amazon for Sidewalk access. > Samsung might make a deal with providers, but it would have to have unique credentials embedded in its OS and firmware, and I doubt Samsung has the ability to keep that totally secure. I don't think this is as hard a problem as you'r…

Post by tenebrisalietum » Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 10:47 AM UTC

reaperducer wrote: post #137

tenebrisalietum wrote: post #102

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What makes me think this will never happen is that - Open Wi-Fi networks are a thing of the past. There hasn't been any around me in a residential area for a long time now. Businesses and workplace lobbies, more likely, though. - No one is going to just give Samsung free Internet except the hapless consumer by supplying Wi-Fi credentials. - Samsung might make a deal with providers, but it would have to have unique cr…

Open Wi-Fi networks are a thing of the past. I've been to two medical facilities and a large regional hospital in the last week where there were open wifi networks with no portals. My apartment building operates an open wifi network for guests so we don't have to bother giving out passwords to visitors. An airport I visited last month has wide open wifi. A see ads on transit buses all the time stating that the bus ha…

Post by porjo » Thu, Sep 29, 2022, 11:14 AM UTC

valleyer wrote: post #351

imglorp wrote: post #280

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You can chain routers. disable the isp router's wifi, or just ignore it. Then place your router of choice on the LAN side of the ISP's router as the its Ethernet client. Make up a new subnet of your choice on your router's LAN side and use its wifi and DHCP.

Won't this result in "double NAT" and break a lot of NAT bypass techniques?