S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
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Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#2So the city says it's legal in light of Martin v. Boise because, while they don't have enough shelter for everyone, the there's enough shelter for those who accept shelter.
I guess we'll find out in 2024 if that argument has legs.
Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#3I think in the context of a legal action, the term "charged" in the current title ("S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered") is confusing, and doesn't match the Chronicle title.
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#4Screw that, clean the homeless up. Can’t believe we have let the problem get so bad.
Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#5No post body was provided.
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Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#7Screw that, clean the homeless up. Can’t believe we have let the problem get so bad.
> clean the homeless up
I'm curious - what do you imagine that looks like?
Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#8Screw that, clean the homeless up. Can’t believe we have let the problem get so bad.
> clean the homeless up I'm curious - what do you imagine that looks like?
Moving them to the shelters and telling them to stay off the street. If there’s no room in the shelter, providing them housing outside the city. If you have a shelter/provided housing it’s a crime to sleep on the streets.
Alternatively start up workhouses and sanitariums again. Government work in exchange for a safe, clean place to sleep and food for the day. Mental sanitariums for those people that are too far gone. That should provide enough of a disincentive over time to camp on the streets.
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#9> The lawsuit alleges that the city violates state and federal laws, its own policies and homeless individuals’ rights by “punishing residents who have nowhere to go,”
They have shelter beds available. People need to stop repeating falsehoods from activists and well-meaning people who keep saying this.
Some homeless people prefer not to use them for a variety of reasons -- usually because shelters tend to be drug- and alcohol-free -- but also for reasons like not accepting pets or not housing couples of opposite gender together.
Re: S.F. sued over homeless camp sweeps: city charged with criminalizing unsheltered
#10'Unsheltered' is a propaganda word and a fig leaf for the very sad reality that we have a chronic opioid and meth crisis which tips many people over into serious mental illness. Giving these individuals expensive housing is not going to solve anything. California is a magnet for substance abuse casualties and as then SF mayor Newsom found at the end of his grandiose plan to 'end homelessness' ever more people arrived to take the places of those who have been given resources.
https://www.sfchronicle.com/archive/item/A-decade-of-homeles...
There is a lot of land and resources in California to help these individuals focus on recovery and it should be possible to keep the cartel drug dealers away from them in a non urban area.