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Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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I think you're replying to the wrong person.

giantg2 is a swell person, I wrongly maligned them in this comment thinking the quote they posted was their own words in a flippant context. I wholeheartedly apologize to giantg2. However for the record, other guy above can beat it.

You do realize that's a quote, right? Like look at the parent of that comment.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Crypto has been such a proven failure yet people still say these things on the regular.

Here is one thing you can do with crypto that you cannot do with a credit card: use your money how you would like. There is no payment processor to decide that you are not allowed to send or receive money.

Meanwhile walmart still won't let me buy snacks with bitcoin

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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The most troubling thing, that is somewhat observable in today's threads, is that ostracizing sex work is almost entirely normalized. People favor legal structures analogous to Don't Ask Don't Tell. This tees up a system of cascading effects: - Sex workers must now navigate a very fluid monetary system. Sex workers must be paid in cash, Bitcoin, etc. Then they have to somehow represent this money to the federal gover…

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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>ostracizing sex work is almost entirely normalized 100%. One of the universal curses people throw at each other is implying that someone's mother is a prostitute, or that they are a product of extramarital sex, implying the promiscuity of the mother. This all is hand-in-hand with the implied comtempt towards women of course.

> 100%. One of the universal curses people throw at each other is implying that someone's mother is a prostitute, or that they are a product of extramarital sex, implying the promiscuity of the mother. This all is hand-in-hand with the implied comtempt towards women of course. How so? Not all women are prostitutes.

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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post #274

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Guaranteed that if they're interacting with a bank or card network, there's KYC involved (in the US and most western countries). So that defeats the whole "fully anonymous" bit. I still don't understand the "anon" value prop of crypto. We've had anonymous payments for goods (like groceries) for a long time - cash.

I would not consider cash anonymous in a grocery store anymore. They're tracking you through other means, including using the bluetooth in your phone, hiring facial recognition companies, and other bits of data to try and have some form of identifier for you that they can put all your purchases on.

That’s true, I mean more for transactions on e.g. Craigslist or a farmers market.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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post #186

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My point is that the "war on drugs" approach is pretty ineffective while at the same time inflicting significant collateral damage. It already is underground, and it already is almost illegal in most jurisdictions. (Actually criminalizing the exchange of valuable consideration for sex hits the problem that things that look suspiciously like it are endemic in hetero dating and "giving money to your tinder date for a t…

You’re skipping the moral problem. The road to hell is paved with utilitarians.

Your religion is not my religion. The law should not prevent me from doing things just because you think it'll send me to hell, anymore than the law should force you to practice my religion.

If you don't believe in freedom of religion, that's your choice, but it sort of one of the founding principles of the USA.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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religion is in no way a requirement for this What makes you say this? Roe was tossed aside by a largely reactionary Catholic bench[1]. State-level anti-choice, anti-LGBTQ, and anything else dealing with sexuality is largely pushed by Evangelicals or other fundamentalist Christian politicians. 1 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_the_Supreme_Co...

I now no longer believe it's a primary driver -- rather a reflection-slash-convenient reason for some underlying social force of repression. Point is, repression can still exist and manifest without it. See e.g. "thirst traps."

That's probably true, but as somebody on the other end of the political spectrum, I'm not sure it matters that much if the reason is actually "because Jesus" or really "Jesus is just an excuse". Either way, voters and the politicians they elect self-identify as conservative Christian while ramming through policies that are largely not the will of the people (at a national level).

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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The only thing special about sex workers in this situation is the politicized nature of their work. The industry they work in, and they way they conduct their business, simply doesn’t align very well with the risk management strategies of conventional financial institutions. Any form of non-conventional work is going to run into exactly the same problems. I know this because the same thing happens to me. Nearly all m…

This is a great theory, and I am inclined to agree, but how does it explain large, stable adult websites encountering such roadblocks?

The above poster has completely ignored the large religious morality groups that have made it their mission to remove porn from the internet entirely. They are the ones that took pornhub to court saying all their content was child porn and got pornhub to remove 90% of its inventory

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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I don't understand this. Why is it destructive to society to provide an easy way for people to get laid if they need to?

A significant amount of people aren't looking at this as an issue of metrics, convenience, economics, or anything of the sort. That's a utilitarian approach. The vast majority of people opposed to legal & regulated prostitution are approaching it from a religious and moral perspective. The Christians that the article rags on believe that the Bible is truth that has been revealed to man by God and that it encourages t…

Yet the US has freedom of religion, it seems there is a large conflict there
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