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Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Because the sexual revolution was driven by self serving liberal men. Read Dworkin’s “Right Wing Women.” https://www.feministes-radicales.org/wp-content/uploads/2010...

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Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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post #42

"It also establishes a precedent, allowing private companies to set opaque, moralizing, and arbitrary censorship terms without oversight." Yes, this is done with other things as well. On one hand, I think that the free market would create payment processors willing to work with the groups rejected by others. On the other hand, it seems that many financial things are set by international organizations, which the proce…

The (big) banks cannot fail because the government will bail them out. As such, the banks should be considered a de-facto government entity and be bound by the same limitations on censorship. There is no competition/market.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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> We also know that the vast majority of people who work in the "industry" are either coerced by others or forced into it by life circumstances. Most people are forced into work by life circumstances. That's how society operates: work or starve. Sex trafficking is a genuine issue, but it's not at all the majority of the industry. I don't see what makes consensual sex work uniquely coercive or evil when compared to ot…

> That's how society operates: work or starve It is more like how biology operates.

I mean, that's false on its face. Plenty of folks don't work and don't starve.

My 8 year old isn't working, but somehow manages to not starve.

We absolutely could structure society to prevent starvation without forcing labor.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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There's a libertarian ethos that says anything between two consenting adults is the their business. I'm more and more skeptical not just of that principle but the self awareness of the people who purport to support it. I know that the choices I think are correct may not be - either for myself, for everyone or for any particular person. For that reason I don't think that anyone should run my life or that I should be t…

I think where the ship runs aground is that sexual things are treated as intrinsically amoral, because people feel its amoral. However, that feeling is no more legitimate than "green is the best color" (because my brain tells me it's the best). Edit: Just want to add - Homosexuality has the same illogical hurdle. It feels immoral to many people, so therefore it must be immoral. People are largely unable to separate t…

Because free sex makes disease and unwanted children, disease and unwanted children cause/suffer-from problems, disease and problems hurt society. This isn't just moral puritanism, it's for good.

Promiscuous sex and many partners irreversibly negatively influences a person's pair-bonding ability at a chemical level, this destroys the family unit and does not benefit the empowered singles and divorced 'pair-couples' we see today promoting this behavior.

Hastening the decline is not entertainment, I wish people would stop encouraging it for short term interests and look at the big picture.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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This theory goes out the window as soon as you turn on a television and see the programming and commercials people watch.

Nope. This confirms it. "Sex" as fine as long as it's not too explicit and mostly not actually about sex, but about keeping you insecure to buy stuff.

Everything in the world is ultimately about sex. Except sex. Sex is about power.

- Oscar Wilde

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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In other words, a world in which payment processors and content platforms rule unchallenged is a problem not just for porn creators and consumers. It also establishes a precedent, allowing private companies to set opaque, moralizing, and arbitrary censorship terms without oversight

They've only just noticed this after years of WrongThinkers being deplatformed?

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

#118
post #66

Among Swedish feminists and the left, sex work is completely unacceptable and prostitution is pretty much equated with rape. Is this not true for other countries?

Swedish feminists probably have as wide a range of opinions on any given topic as any other kind of feminist. Also: "the left," a fraught and increasingly fluid concept.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Most people in the industry, at least in the West, are not coerced or forced, they simply do it because they can make an order of magnitude more money than they can make waiting tables.

Median onlyfans income is $150 per month. You have to be in the top 5-10% for it to be a viable source of income.

Re: Why are sex workers forced to wear a financial scarlet letter?

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Legitimizing the industry helps make cases of coercion more obvious, as people gain more legitimate means to report things without self-incrimination. Physical laborers rent out their bodies in a way that often causes permanent damage. It's literally degrading their bodies. Some construction workers live with chronic pain for their entire lives. There's a psychological component as well, which is more vulnerable in s…

> but there are no shortage of people who also end up with psychological damage from their jobs outside of sex work Not to labour the point but: cf Soldiers. Men can take the emotional and physical toll but women can't? edit: just to expand on this, talk to people who have been on military tours about the horrors of draging dead bodies (that they might have killed) from the road side, the pain of loosing friends, bei…

I think you've missed the point here. The poster is saying that sex work is vulnerable to psychological damage, but isn't considered as legitimate as military-related careers which are also vulnerable to psychological damage. The poster is questioning society which determines sex work to be less legitimate as a career than military work or any other career.
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